Newer Savage Model 10 with rusty chamber

[DIBBS]

D A Y U M M M N N ! ! !

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I wonder how may people double checked there chamber today? I sure did. Scary!!!

Ive left butchs and shooters choice in chrome moly barrels for a year with no ill effects. I guess its all in what you use

 

[leclairk]

Wanted to follow up and report that Savage polished up the chamber and will be shipping it back free of charge. Much appreciated Savage.

 

[Someoldguy]

Wanted to follow up and report that Savage polished up the chamber and will be shipping it back free of charge. Much appreciated Savage.

Was the bore inspected as well?

Strikes me as odd that the chamber would corrode like that but the bore remain unscathed . . . .

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Was the bore inspected as well?

Strikes me as odd that the chamber would corrode like that but the bore remain unscathed . . . .

Ive seen winchesters do it. They blue the barrel then for whatever reason they polish the chamber. That makes it loose then the repolish makes it even worse

 

[Someoldguy]

Ive seen winchesters do it. They blue the barrel then for whatever reason they polish the chamber. That makes it loose then the repolish makes it even worse

Right, that thought occurred to me as well. I should have said 'If it were mine, I'd want the bore inspected as well because it strikes me as odd that the chamber would corrode like that but the bore remain unscathed.'

I'm just silly that way, I guess.

 

[Texas10]

I always use a chamber mop to dry and remove cleaning solvents after cleaning. Using a bore guide will help reduce solvents backing up into the chamber, and keeping the muzzle pointing downward while cleaning is always advised.

 

[JSH]

I hope we don't see a thread on a largish chamber or hard extraction, marks on the brass etc.

The OP should feel very fortunate they did anything. Hope it works out for the best.

 

[foxguy]

Dusty, anybody??

Why would Bore Tech Eliminator rust the Chamber / Barrel?

From the Bore Tech Site- on Bore Tech Eliminator Cleaning

Bore Tech Eliminator™ Bore Cleaner is the premier, state of the art bore cleaner that has taken the shooting industry by storm. The revolutionary and patented formula is 100% barrel safe, biodegradable and easily outperforms the competition.

and

Bore Tech Eliminator™ Bore Cleaner Use Instructions

UNLOAD FIREARM

1) Wet 3 to 4 Bore Tech X Count patches with Eliminator Bore Cleaner and individually push through bore to remove loose fouling. Only push patches through the bore in ONE direction.

2) Next, make 10 to 15 passes with a tight fitting Bore Tech Proof-Positive Nylon brush saturated with Eliminator.

3) Then repeat Step 1 and let Eliminator soak for 3 to 5 minutes. For badly fouled rifles, extended soak times may be needed.

4) Finally, push dry patches through the bore until they come out clean.

5) Repeat above steps if necessary.

6) Before storing firearm, dampen a patch with Eliminator and push through bore. This will protect against rust/corrosion for up to 2 weeks under normal storage conditions.

7) For extended storage or in adverse conditions apply Bore Tech Friction Guard XP Gun Oil.

8) Before using firearm, always run a dry patch through the bore. This will remove any residue and ensure against obstructions.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Dusty, anybody??

Why would Bore Tech Eliminator rust the Chamber / Barrel?

From the Bore Tech Site- on Bore Tech Eliminator Cleaning

Bore Tech Eliminator™ Bore Cleaner is the premier, state of the art bore cleaner that has taken the shooting industry by storm. The revolutionary and patented formula is 100% barrel safe, biodegradable and easily outperforms the competition.

and

Bore Tech Eliminator™ Bore Cleaner Use Instructions

UNLOAD FIREARM

1) Wet 3 to 4 Bore Tech X Count patches with Eliminator Bore Cleaner and individually push through bore to remove loose fouling. Only push patches through the bore in ONE direction.

2) Next, make 10 to 15 passes with a tight fitting Bore Tech Proof-Positive Nylon brush saturated with Eliminator.

3) Then repeat Step 1 and let Eliminator soak for 3 to 5 minutes. For badly fouled rifles, extended soak times may be needed.

4) Finally, push dry patches through the bore until they come out clean.

5) Repeat above steps if necessary.

6) Before storing firearm, dampen a patch with Eliminator and push through bore. This will protect against rust/corrosion for up to 2 weeks under normal storage conditions.

7) For extended storage or in adverse conditions apply Bore Tech Friction Guard XP Gun Oil.

8) Before using firearm, always run a dry patch through the bore. This will remove any residue and ensure against obstructions.

Dont matter what that says its bad stuff. Took the coating off a dewey and bore tech rod of mine before i could stop it, busted the ferrule on the end of another dewey and rusted a jewell trigger up so bad it couldnt be saved on another one that came to me. Itll take paint off almost instantly which is weird because it feels like soap

 

[foxguy]

Dont matter what that says its bad stuff. Took the coating off a dewey and bore tech rod of mine before i could stop it, busted the ferrule on the end of another dewey and rusted a jewell trigger up so bad it couldnt be saved on another one that came to me. Itll take paint off almost instantly which is weird because it feels like soap

WOW, I had no clue? I just ordered some of it after trying it, because it worked well. Guess I will be using it sparingly. I have been using Wipeout for a couple of years and had tried the Bore Tech after cleaning several times with Wipeout and the Bore Tech still took out more Copper ( I had thought the Wipe Out was doing a good job). I have been cleaning Stainless Barrels.

WOW, Double WOW!

Dusty, Thanks

 

[Dusty Stevens]

WOW, I had no clue? I just ordered some of it after trying it, because it worked well. Guess I will be using it sparingly. I have been using Wipeout for a couple of years and had tried the Bore Tech after cleaning several times with Wipeout and the Bore Tech still took out more Copper ( I had thought the Wipe Out was doing a good job). I have been cleaning Stainless Barrels.

WOW, Double WOW!

Dusty, Thanks

Im sure a google search may turn some topics up. Theres even been stainless barrels pitted by it and stainless actions ruined by it. I looked earlier and i have 7 cleaning rods ruined by it

 

[47WillysGuy]

Before shooting any of my rifles, I make it a habit to run a patch through bore and chamber to remove whatever's in the bore, oil, accumulated dust, or anything that might have crawled into the barrel. I have seen a a couple of slightly rusty looking patches and wondered now why is that.

After shooting the your rifle, how was the rifle put up for storage? Was it cleaned and then after cleaning, was the bore/ chamber patched with gun oil?

Solvents remove everything to bare metal and without the oil, rust will form.

 

[hogpatrol]

your cleaning and storage needs to be re-assessed

So does the barrel break in procedure. We've beaten this dead horse to a pulp but after cleaning I run a mop with Marvel Mystery Oil through the bore. YMMV.

 

[NorCalMikie]

I run a mop with Marvel Mystery Oil through the bore.

Smells good too.

 

[Nature Boy]

I use Bore Tech products and don’t see anything like the rust the OP has. There has to be another variable we’re missing

 

[leclairk]

I hope we don't see a thread on a largish chamber or hard extraction, marks on the brass etc.

The OP should feel very fortunate they did anything. Hope it works out for the best.

What’s this largish chamber you speak of? If I take the rifle out and it shoots/functions fine, am I in the clear or are there other possible problems I would not be aware of? I just want the damn thing to function as it should.
And yes, I feel very fortunate Savage fixed this problem for me given they probably didn’t have anything to do with the rust. That’s part of the reason for my follow up post. Savage has gone above and beyond in taking care of this and should be recognized for it.

 

[dolek]

What’s this largish chamber you speak of?

He is giving you the doomsday report ... he said, to take the rust out they had to take a little steel ... so possible oversized chamber . In reality you probably do not have a thing to worry about,I doubt Savage shipped you a rifle that is dangerous.

 

[47WillysGuy]

What’s this largish chamber you speak of? If I take the rifle out and it shoots/functions fine, am I in the clear or are there other possible problems I would not be aware of? I just want the damn thing to function as it should.
And yes, I feel very fortunate Savage fixed this problem for me given they probably didn’t have anything to do with the rust. That’s part of the reason for my follow up post. Savage has gone above and beyond in taking care of this and should be recognized for it.

Do you or Savage have a theory as to how the rust was formed?

 

[JSH]

I just want the damn thing to function as it should.

Not a dooms day report, I just see where it could head too. You caused what ever the rust issue was. Yet you thought Savage should fix it. So now that they probably did no more than run a bronze brush into it and clean it out, there could be some small issue, maybe,but I doubt it.
So I don't know how you can "damn" the gun or anyone when it was in your care after 500 rounds, what ever the cause of the rust was a result of your actions.

I ruined a barrel years ago with a solvent it seems no one else on the planet ever had an issue with but me. In three days it looked like a mile of bad road,full of pits from chamber to muzzle. My GS at the time could not believe it, #9 and that XYZ cleaner was all I had at the time.
I cleaned the cleaner out for many years after that, then a liberal amount of oil was applied and excess cleaned off.
I still am very cautious about leaving bore cleaners or the residue on very long.

Maybe a slight rant but not meant that way. Heck it's a Savage spin a new one on. I just picked up a model 10 with 100 rounds for a donor action.