"new" ripoff trimmer from Hornady

[drop_point]

guess i'm the problem sorry for sticking up for the small guys

I agree with you. I'm disappointed in Hornady.

Between them knowingly falsifying velocity on the 7mmPRC factory ammo, forcing the COVID jab on their employees, and now copying Berger and Henderson, I'm not sure if I can support them anymore. On the flip side, I have one of their progressive presses and they have been great. Additionally, they have been VERY kind to a person friend of mine that works in the gun industry.

 

[hpshooter]

$620

Hornady High Speed Power Case Trimmer 120 Volt

The Hornady High Speed Trimmer brings three case preparation steps into one space saving tool. The powerful motor spins at 2000+ RPMs, allowing users to...

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Pretty sure I will stick with my Gracey with the Girraud cutter that chamfers the OD and ID. Has served me well for 40 years.

 

[marchx]

 

[NZ_Fclass]

Just cos it looks like a Henderson trimmer....I'm not rushing off to get one.

 

[drop_point]

Its even RED!

 

[jghoghunter]

Just cos it looks like a Henderson trimmer....I'm not rushing off to get one.

You and many others! Hornady has meticulous Bean counters and an outstanding marketing department. So when the bean counters make it into a piece of junk the marketing department tells you it's the best thing going. Where all Henderson has is the quality of his product which I'm sure is far above what Hornady is ever going to produce. I'm not pissed off at Hornady I just watch them very closely and never jump on their bandwagon. It will bite you in the ass at some point.

 

[Ccrider]

You're thinking of Giraud. The Henderson uses OAL; case head to cutter if you will. It appears that Hornady uses a mic to control it whereas Henderson uses a hard stop on a bolt. Henderson had said about six months ago he was developing a micrometer adjustable version of his trimmer.

They say they have a prototype but nothing ready for production. I talked to them last week.

 

[drop_point]

They say they have a prototype but nothing ready for production. I talked to them last week.

Henderson does?

 

[Ccrider]

Henderson does?

Yes

 

[drop_point]

Yes

I sure hope its adaptable to current gen trimmers.

 

[Janeau]

You guys are all up on this design that ressemble the Henderson but have nothing to says on all those lathe style bench trimmer produced by every reloading manufacturer, that are all the same principle ?

What about all those dies that look the same ? What about all those single stage press that look the same ? What about all the shell holder ? What about primer pocket uniformer ? I can go on and on with products that are the same…

The only thing the Hornady and Hendersen share are the horizontal rods..thats it.

 

[Benchrest Braxton]

This makes me smile!…. I’ve tried my best to rile ya with zero success but Hornaday got the job done!…. I’ve bitched about there junk for years and every time I do I get flamed for it!… I think once you stood up for them while I was bitching…… I’m happy you have joined the Hornaday haters Bwahaha!…. Have the best rest of your day buddy.
Wayne

yep i 100% did stand up for them, you were right Wayne!

 

[drop_point]

Lathe styles have been around for decades and non was a unique patented design but if it were, patents tend to be granted for 20 years. Not really an apples to apples comparison to Hornady's resemblance to the Henderson which has been around for about five years.

 

[Benchrest Braxton]

NO I expect from the Chinese not Hornady

exactly.

 

[K22]

Sometimes you have to turn mother's picture to the wall, hold your nose, then proceed. However, there are many things that can cause 'stomach acid' in today's brave new world but a trimmer isn't one of them, at least not from what I see in today's world gone mad.

I really like, I mean really like their pistol bullets, XTP's and rifle bullets, Vmax. So, I will keep buying those in large quantities as long as they are still available, and I can afford them.

One compliant I have is Hornady covets their reloading manual like it's the first edition of Hemingway's classic, "For Whom the Bell Tolls." Whereas Nosler allows you to download specific bullet loading data free. Apparently Nosler figure it out, they make more money, a lot more money selling bullets than reloading manuals. Hornady has yet to discover this but there is always hope.

I just want some load data for their 223 60 Vmax. So, with my old brain, I have to memorize it from the display copy of their manual at my local shop and hope I get it right. Even the local shop figured it out, they make a lot more money from selling bullets, powder and primers than reloading books thus they have display copies you can peruse. (My vent of the day )

 

[Janeau]

Lathe styles have been around for decades and non was a unique patented design but if it were, patents tend to be granted for 20 years. Not really an apples to apples comparison to Hornady's resemblance to the Henderson which has been around for about five years.

Hendersen use Forster collets..he use almost an exact duplicate of RCBS cutting head….the horizontal post system exist on lathe and other type of machinery.

If he has a patent of some sort..I do not know which one… his force is the quality of it’s product, not in the innovation. Most people never heard of Hendersen trimmers and at close to a 1K many will never see or touch one.

Hornady trimmer is different in many ways that there is nothing to rips off a shirt over. They have the client base and distribution network for it.

One or the other do not gather to the same crowd, more than a Redding Turret press does to an Area 419 turret buyer.

 

[drop_point]

Hendersen use Forster collets..he use almost an exact duplicate of RCBS cutting head….the horizontal post system exist on lathe and other type of machinery.

If he has a patent of some sort..I do not know which one… his force is the quality of it’s product, not in the innovation. Most people never heard of Hendersen trimmers and at close to a 1K many will never see or touch one.

Hornady trimmer is different in many ways that there is nothing to rips off a shirt over. They have the client base and distribution network for it.

One or the other do not gather to the same crowd, more than a Redding Turret press does to an Area 419 turret buyer.

I disagree. The Henderson is quite an innovative product.

 

[shoot4fun]

This really grinds my gears, I cannot continue to support a company that blatantly rips off another small businesses product. I am honestly speechless at this move by them. I could not believe my eyes when the video popped up on youtube.

Hornady clearly has zero shame in their business tactics and I will not be buying another single product from them!

Here is their comment form, just sent my displeasure with their scummy business tactics.

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While I do understand your sentiment I have to ask a question.
What if this situation was (it often has been) reversed and Henderson (just example) had brought out a trimmer that was even a 90%. straight up copy of the Hornady version?
Would we be in a snit then?
How about when one company (not a little guy) blatantly copies another big company?
Example that comes to mind is Glock made a poly frame pistol and now everyone has one too.
Ruger has a 10-22 rifle but it has been copied by many, MANY smaller companies.
It it not a one way street in the firearms/shooting industry. I know that for 100% fact because I was in the industry.
Be mad! Have your bully pulpit. But just don't take it out on Hornady because it's something that happens with regularity in the entire industry.

 

[Jason Boersma]

Before starting a post about a company that supports the shooting sports why don’t you contact them about it.

 

[Benchrest Braxton]

Before starting a post about a company that supports the shooting sports why don’t you contact them about it.

already did, i told them how disgusted i was and here was their response (basically we don't care). the henderson gen 3 unit is not speed adjustable like they are stating..... so i guess they are claiming its not the same because of the chip tray and different motor