New IBS legal brake

[LA50SHOOTER]

This is not even remotely related to 50 cals. Me personally have zero interest in 50's. It's all cool and all and nothing against them...

From your perspective maybe not. - But maybe something the shooters in that competitive venue do could be helpful to IBS/NBRSA 600/1000 yard competition.
- I personally don't like the "bite" that comes off a brake either and I surely can't shoot my best trying to "white-knuckle" it during a record relay.
- So, solutions IMO is where the "gains" need to be made at.

All The Best to Each & Everyone.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I don't think any one likes sitting next to a braked rifle. Range rules trump IBS rules so if a range wants to ban them they can. Currently they are legal in the IBS, there is a way to get the rules changed. So if it bothers you that much get the signatures and put it up for vote. Getting at each other on here doesnt do anything.

 

[Stan Taylor]

Because it IS Complaining Jim, - Pure & Simple - Nothing More, Nothing Less. - When I shoot a match & there is a gun next to me that has a brake on his gun, I have a quick, short & polite conversation prior to shooting the relay. - There is plenty of time for both shooters to get their rounds down to the record target.
And Yes, the blast shields are definitely helpful. - Nothing that a guy could put together & have with him, made out of a couple pieces of 3/8" plywood and a couple 90 degree angle brackets & be C-clamped to the bench.

It's funny you said that I just that made a couple Shields for my heavy gun out of plexiglass.
Because I'm gonna shoot the cartridge that I have confidence in being able to be competitive an if I go to an IBS range says Stan you can't shoot that I will go to Hell home and I won't go back .
I would suggest that the IBS change the rules in 600 and 1000 yd disciplines that you can't shoot anything larger than a 6.5 caliber then guess what you won't need anymore muzzle brakes.

 

[LA50SHOOTER]

Easy Stan, - I've invested a good deal into my 30's. (just like a bunch of others have).

There IS a Solution and it starts at the line with a conversation and using shields. - Not banning stuff.

 

[INTJ]

It should be a range specific rule. When shooting at Tri-County in Oregon, the firing is well covered and brakes are loud. At Deep Creek in Montana benches are far apart and it doesn't seem to be an issue. It doesn't seem to be an issue in Tucson and White City either for anyone except the most sensitive shooters.

Part of the issue is few of us are patient enough to wait even 60 seconds before we shoot for record, even if our preferred condition hasn't come back yet.

 

[RKS]

Alex, the thread "has left the building."

+1 on range/bench modifications or having to shoot at the end of the line

Why try and handicap an 83 yr old man who has accomplished such a feat with a brake - no matter the organization?

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[JFrank]

Easy Stan, - I've invested a good deal into my 30's. (just like a bunch of others have).

There IS a Solution and it starts at the line with a conversation and using shields. - Not banning stuff.

Ron
What do you say to your neighbor during this chat?

 

[RGRobinett]

It's funny you said that I just that made a couple Shields for my heavy gun out of plexiglass.
Because I'm gonna shoot the cartridge that I have confidence in being able to be competitive an if I go to an IBS range says Stan you can't shoot that I will go to Hell home and I won't go back .
I would suggest that the IBS change the rules in 600 and 1000 yd disciplines that you can't shoot anything larger than a 6.5 caliber then guess what you won't need anymore muzzle brakes.

But, Stan, it's April 2nd!! RG

 

[LA50SHOOTER]

Ron
What do you say to your neighbor during this chat?

Jim,

I say, "good morning/afternoon" for starters "I'm Ron" and I ask, "Do you want to shoot first, or me to?" - This is at a FCSA match where every gun on the line has a brake and Any type of brake is allowed as long as it passes the pre-safety inspection prior to the match.

- At the IBS matches, I haven't use a muzzle brake (yet) on any of my rifles, and I have sat next to a couple of guns that did have muzzle brakes. - In which case, I just let them go ahead & shoot then after I shot and there was still more than enough time. - No muss, no fuss. - The same type of conversations and a little care for each other as fellow shooters could be used at other sanctioned matches (IBS/NBRSA)

 

[RGRobinett]

I don't think any one likes sitting next to a braked rifle. Range rules trump IBS rules so if a range wants to ban them they can. Currently they are legal in the IBS, there is a way to get the rules changed. So if it bothers you that much get the signatures and put it up for vote. Getting at each other on here doesnt do anything.

Alex, are you certain of this - That at a registered event, the range can ban/exclude IBS/sanctioning body 'legal' equipment legal equipment? RG

 

[miles13]

As long as the brake is legal according to IBS and/or the hosting club I have no problem. I get in "the zone" when shooting and don't pay any attention to anything but the target and the trigger. Honestly I never hear the guy beside me shooting.

 

[Stan Taylor]

But, Stan, it's April 2nd!! RG

Yes it is and it's good Friday hope everyone in this discussion has a great Friday.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Alex, are you certain of this - That at a registered event, the range can ban/exclude IBS/sanctioning body 'legal' equipment legal equipment? RG

Im not the authority but Im pretty sure on this one. An example is that some ranges require the muzzle to be past the end of the bench even though the IBS does not you still have to follow range rules.

 

[johara1]

The brake issue is amplified by close benches.... now it isn't complaining to ask for a level playing field.... If the braked gun moves your gun without you touching it that is interference, and should be able to protest it...... jim

 

[SLamm]

Just wondering why person doesn’t go and buy a radial brake for ibs matches. Just me but If I were interested I would pick up a $40 brake and cut it to the same weight as my side port and try it. It might even shoot better.

 

[Stan Taylor]

I think everyone should be able to be happy ,and enjoy the sport that we all love,and order to do that sometimes you,have to improvise that's the only reason, I am in favor of using a break of whatever fashion as long as it's legal,there's ways for all ranges to improvise,one way is on the registration forms have a box in the equipment list saying do you have a brake and enter that in computer an when they assign relays put the muzzle brakes together an non muzzle brakes on the other end an seperation of one barrier between them.
Problem solved yay.
I kinda of doubt it but that's my 2 cents.

 

[SLamm]

Nah, I’ve been putting them on rifles almost every week. I like them all. But I have had them on both sides of me during a match and it was unpleasant. But I think most people in this sport are pretty creative and can find a solution. I hope you have great success with your new brake design Alex.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Thanks, but its not my design. I just asked MBM to come up with something more effective than a radial. He will sell them and I get nothing. Im only letting people know they exist.

 

[sdean]

Thanks, but its not my design. I just asked MBM to come up with something more effective than a radial. He will sell them and I get nothing. Im only letting people know they exist.

I had JGS make a tool to cut a 11 degree crown 3/4 inch back from the muzzle. It seemed to be quieter behind the gun. I'll have to try a brake with that setup.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I will be deleting this thread, again. For those who feel the need to trash it, know that going forard you simply will not know about new developments from me. If an advancement is made in action manufacture, ignition, triggers, brass, you name it, you will need to learn on your own. This is un believable and Im tired of it. Im not paid to post or help any one. When it gets like this I loose all interest.