NEW doppler chronograph coming to market!

[JimSC]

here is a link to the manual. Looks like it comes with a SD card.

https://www.sqi-andix.com/wp-content...-A1_A1.0.0.pdf

My first impression is that this is everything I hoped LR II would be. Between this and the Caldwell unit coming out later this year Labradar may be prodded into improving their unit. Right now I plan on waiting for the Caldwell unit to be released, then evaluate and decide which one would be the better purchase

for the poster above who says his his laptop does not have built in wifi, I would bet it has a USB port and all you would need is a USB wifi adapter. best thing about wifi is that it will work on anything that has a web browser. Apple, Windows, Chromebook, etc etc. No separate aps for each platform

 

[divingin]

for the poster above who says his his laptop does not have built in wifi, I would bet it has a USB port and all you would need is a USB wifi adapter.

Funny; looked that up last Sunday. $10 at multiple vendors.

 

[SeabeeKen]

My labradar works fine for me and Im not changing anytime soon but I will keep watching this thread.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I full well know what WIFI is. I run WIFI on my computers and with a
T-Mobil WIFI 5G gateway. But my question still stands on plugging in.
I have 2 lap tops that are non wireless. So maybe the question should
be; Can I use a a cable (USB) to attach to external devices or is it strictly
wireless ?? Or I could simply get a USB plug in, wifi adaptor for the lap
tops, Either way, I've run a Lab Radar for several years now, and with
good results. I will most definitely be following these tests.

Laptop without built in wifi? That’s like using a cassette player to listen to music. Lol

Just get an Amazon Fire tablet for the task. They are cheap, easily portable, and work very well. Probably even more processor speed than your old non-wifi laptops too.

 

[Fuj]

Laptop without built in wifi? That’s like using a cassette player to listen to music. Lol

Just get an Amazon Fire tablet for the task. They are cheap, easily portable, and work very well. Probably even more processor speed than your old non-wifi laptops too.

My one Lap top runs all my cad engineering programs and "Solid Works".
One of the last ones built by Micron. More then enough for the radar unit.
Best Buy has an adaptor for $16 in the store. I really don't need it since I
probably will not buy this new Unit. If my Lab Radar ever dies, The only way
I would buy this new gadget is if it was cheaper. We'll see what the future
brings from the testing.

And yes, I do listen to tunes on cassette. Garage has a JVC dual deck sitting
on top of a Sansui receiver, thru Pioneers. Lately been running some Stanley
Clark and Jean Luc Ponty.

 

[JimSC]

One of things I wonder about is how recoil vibration would affect the unit when mounted on the rifle as far as velocity readings. In regard to the durability the new electronic scopes seem to be holding up ok for most users but how would these units fare if mounted on a heavy recoiling rifle after 10K or 20K shots?

back to the wifi, I would wager most of our phones have wifi capabilities. When load testing I use my tablets wifi with my Shotmarker and my phones bluetooth with my ProChrono when doing load testing. That way I can monitor both at the same time instead of flipping back and forth between the ap and the browser. The phone size screen is plenty large enough for velocity monitoring then I email the CSV file to myself for inserting in a spreadsheet on my desktop

Wifi is the better choice for remote monitoring since it is simpler for the developer. Just ask anyone who has had issues with the Labradars bluetooth aps. The Shotmarkers wifi has been flawless for me

 

[F Class John]

One of things I wonder about is how recoil vibration would affect the unit when mounted on the rifle as far as velocity readings. In regard to the durability the new electronic scopes seem to be holding up ok for most users but how would these units fare if mounted on a heavy recoiling rifle after 10K or 20K shots?

Probably a fair question, I'm going to make an assumption that given what he's done so far and experience in the field he's on top of it. The nice thing is that it's not required to mount on a gun. I moved it all around including a small tripod yesterday.

 

[JimSC]

Well I am really looking forward to your range testing John, most of the regulars here know I no fan of the current version of the Labradar. I am hoping this unit addresses most if not all of the issues I have with it. If the early reports of the Andiscan 2 are positive I will have on in my range bag by the end of the year

 

[sqrlgtr]

John has been packing bullets for shipment to me so he may be a little behind on testing report lol....

 

[Shinbone]

I am very happy with my Labradar. I get excellent results, and it is easy to set up. It is a major improvement over the classic light-sensing chronographs. That being said, I hope that a new doppler radar unit coming on the market will kick the Labradar people in the butt to do some upgrades to their product, or, offer its own improvements over the Labradar. In particular, I'd like to see the upper speed limitation of 3900 fps of the Labradar increased. Some of my handloads do exceed 3900fps, at which point I have to switch over to a Magnetospeed. Better tracking of .22 cal. bullets would be nice, too.

 

[rijndael]

LabRadar can work on an integrated sighting device, better bluetooth, better battery setup, and a more robust hardware package. Something that can sustain being blown over and surviving would be nice. An included inertia trigger would be nice too.

 

[Ccrider]

I am very happy with my Labradar. I get excellent results, and it is easy to set up. It is a major improvement over the classic light-sensing chronographs. That being said, I hope that a new doppler radar unit coming on the market will kick the Labradar people in the butt to do some upgrades to their product, or, offer its own improvements over the Labradar. In particular, I'd like to see the upper speed limitation of 3900 fps of the Labradar increased. Some of my handloads do exceed 3900fps, at which point I have to switch over to a Magnetospeed. Better tracking of .22 cal. bullets would be nice, too.

The guys at LabRadar told me the fps limitation was “mechanical,” and can not be increased by software. I did not attempt to go into any further detail about it.

Looking at the new unit that John is beta testing, if it has the same mechanical limitation, I would not switch to it. I would have to use a second device with a larger screen because I like shot by shot feedback. I hope the wifi software is better than LabRadars which I find useless.

 

[F Class John]

The guys at LabRadar told me the fps limitation was “mechanical,” and can not be increased by software. I did not attempt to go into any further detail about it.

Looking at the new unit that John is beta testing, if it has the same mechanical limitation, I would not switch to it. I would have to use a second device with a larger screen because I like shot by shot feedback. I hope the wifi software is better than LabRadars which I find useless.

Yeah I'm pretty sure it is actually a mechanical issue. The AndiScan I have limits just under 4300fps according the manual (I don't have anything that fast to check however).

 

[Shinbone]

My guess is that the lower the signal strength, or, the lower the gain of the receiving antenna, then the lower the upper speed limit. In other words, the 3900fps speed limit of the Labradar is not an immutable number, but does depend on the design of the system, and could be made higher than 3900 fps with the appropriate system design. If the AndiScan does top out at 4300fps, this shows the Labradar does have room for improvement in that regard.

JMHO

 

[RegionRat]

The issues that drive a Doppler radar’s capability are not just limited to physics, hardware and software. Don’t forget that there are regulatory issues that affect consumer electronics that vary by local laws, as well as communication spectrum and electromagnetic radiation regulations that also vary by local laws.

It is tricky to design consumer electronics that can be sold in one country, and then it takes even more expertise to design for more universal sales by trying to stay under all the other possible markets. For example, LR is designed by a Canadian firm, and this new unit we are discussing originates in Czechoslovakia. Not all the regulations between continents and countries are the same, but there are enough similarities in the major issues that both of these units will end up limited in terms of bottom line performance.

They are both navigating the complexity of selling a consumer electronic product that is regulated by several legal branches in each country. Some of these legal limits affect performance limits, others do not. Carry on, YMMV.

 

[SGK]

"Czechoslovakia"

Not since end 1992!!!

 

[RegionRat]

"Czechoslovakia"

Not since end 1992!!!

Sorry, Cold War habit…

 

[joshb]

My one Lap top runs all my cad engineering programs and "Solid Works".
One of the last ones built by Micron. More then enough for the radar unit.
Best Buy has an adaptor for $16 in the store. I really don't need it since I
probably will not buy this new Unit. If my Lab Radar ever dies, The only way
I would buy this new gadget is if it was cheaper. We'll see what the future
brings from the testing.

And yes, I do listen to tunes on cassette. Garage has a JVC dual deck sitting
on top of a Sansui receiver, thru Pioneers. Lately been running some Stanley
Clark and Jean Luc Ponty.

Any Return to Forever?

 

[Fuj]

Any Return to Forever?

Digging thru the plie, I will pull out some Chick Corea, I have some
Billy Cobham "Spectrum" set aside for the next session. Yesterday
I had some "Spyro Gyra" playing in the background while annealing
and trimming brass.

John....I went back and viewed the video again, and for aiming the unit,
it does not look any better then the simple notch on the Lab. Have you
any input on aiming yet ??

 

[JimSC]

Of course this is just speculation but with the unit mounted on the rifle or the rest I doubt it would need aiming. If I end up buying one I will probably end up using a velcro mount on some of my bolt rifles, my sled bipod or my rest. On the gas guns I would use a M Lok mount