New barrel + bore scope + or -

[Link]

How many people myself included will borescope a new barrel and call the smith with questions? I'm still not sure what a used bore should look like . Maybe you never know until you shoot it. I think some of you guys will be sorry you hyped up the new scope. I wonder how many scopes have been sold.
Don

 

[jrm850]

Some will probably be sorry, but I'm guessing that work will migrate to the smiths that know what they are doing.

 

[Link]

Do all smiths scope the barrel after a chamber job or is there another way to check them?

 

[dmoran]

Just use the bore-scope for barrel cleaning, until you have looked down enough barrels and gained enough experience to judge them, is my advise. While certainly not all, but likely most gunsmiths will access there chamber jobs with a bore-scope (at least the ones that care).

 

[moondog]

I'm fairly new to the Hawkeye. Didn't know what I was looking at, still don't. I started by looking at new chamber jobs just to get a baseline. Then, every time after I shoot and clean. It's been a learning experience for sure. Especially in the cleaning routine, different chemicals affects. Best piece of reloading equipment I ever got.

 

[Big Mc]

How many people myself included will borescope a new barrel and call the smith with questions? I'm still not sure what a used bore should look like . Maybe you never know until you shoot it. I think some of you guys will be sorry you hyped up the new scope. I wonder how many scopes have been sold.
Don

What I have found is they are great for checking how good you cleaned the barrel. As far as how good is my barrel I leave that to the pros.Just my two cents.. Tommy Mc

 

[bobm]

How many people myself included will borescope a new barrel and call the smith with questions? I'm still not sure what a used bore should look like . Maybe you never know until you shoot it. I think some of you guys will be sorry you hyped up the new scope. I wonder how many scopes have been sold.
Don

I would never bother a reputable busy gunsmith with questions I have no knowledge of. You can get plenty of seasoned expert answers here with out bothering your gunsmith. You need lots of shots down range to determine if you even need advice from a smith. The $50. Teslong scope is an affordable quality tool any serious shooter should own.

..... "sorry about you hyped up the new scope" Not me. Teslong hit a home run with this product.

 

[Ccrider]

Helps to see what an unfired bore looks like so you have something to compare to.

Whether the gun shoots well is influenced by many factors. My guess is that if a new custom barrel is not shooting up to expectations, the best odds are that it is the shooter or the load, not the barrel. Or at least not the barrel 90+ percent of the time.

 

[Ned Ludd]

Yes - I absolutely DO borescope every new barrel and I would call the smith without hesitation to ask a question IF I saw something I didn't like. Bottom line - no one is absolutely perfect and I paid good money to have the work done. FWIW - I have also called a smith simply to compliment a very outstanding chambering job, so it can work both ways.

 

[D-4297]

If you can't call , or text your Gunsmith with a question , or to give a compliment , I would suggest you find a new gunsmith . Life's to short to not have a congenial working relationship with your Smith . Your giving that man ; or woman , a awful lot of money for custom rifle work , and if he can't be a civil , decent individual ? Screw em ! You are the customer and not someone "annoying" the great "Oz" .
I also look at new barrels with the benefit of 35 years machine shop trained eye . And when it's right , my guy hears from me . When it isn't right , or I feel there is a issue , he hears from me then , too .

 

[divingin]

Helps to see what an unfired bore looks like so you have something to compare to.

Kind of what I was thinking.

Example: New shooters shouldn't be answering questions on here on subjects they know little or nothing about. That said, as you gain experience, you gain knowledge, and your opinions carry a little more weight.

You'll never get the knowledge about interpreting the insides of a barrel without actually doing it. A gunsmith who has never looked at rifling or chambering with a scope is probably just as worthless at that as I am (well, OK, almost as worthless...)

If I see something in the barrel that looks odd, I can ask my smith, and see what he says. It may be nothing, and I learn something new. Or it may be something that he somehow missed. Who knows? I agree that you shouldn't go in with an accusatory mindset, but a good smith should also be willing to explain what you found, and say why it isn't or is a problem.

 

[bobm]

divingin said...

"I agree that you shouldn't go in with an accusatory mindset, but a good smith should also be willing to explain what you found, and say why it isn't or is a problem."

Exactly that. Well said. With this ability to share pictures it really helps the buyer and builder with big miles between them.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

For $50, I think every serious shooter should have one of these teslongs. Personally I like guys to scope chambers. Just try to learn a little about what your seeing and do not make any drastic changes to what your doing. The target is still the most important thing when it comes to loading and cleaning. Sometimes a perfect looking barrel never shoots, and one with some tooling marks will break records. Some shoot well very clean, others are fine will a little fouling.
I also think some of you would be very surprised at how much time smiths spend answering questions and walking guys through problems.

 

[1shot]

I've been using the same smith since I ventured down this rabbit hole in 2006. I have watched him do several chambers and he scopes every one with a short Hawkeye. I ask questions and try and learn from what I'm looking at, and his explanation of it. At least for me, a call or visit to my smith is more like catching up with and old friend instead of a business transaction.

Lloyd

 

[ridgeway]

Kind of what I was thinking.

Example: New shooters shouldn't be answering questions on here on subjects they know little or nothing about. That said, as you gain experience, you gain knowledge, and your opinions carry a little more weight.

You'll never get the knowledge about interpreting the insides of a barrel without actually doing it. A gunsmith who has never looked at rifling or chambering with a scope is probably just as worthless at that as I am (well, OK, almost as worthless...)

If I see something in the barrel that looks odd, I can ask my smith, and see what he says. It may be nothing, and I learn something new. Or it may be something that he somehow missed. Who knows? I agree that you shouldn't go in with an accusatory mindset, but a good smith should also be willing to explain what you found, and say why it isn't or is a problem.

I called up a very well known Smith about 8 years ago to ask a question about a BAT and to get work done to it. I was told he was too busy to talk and hung up on me. I do my own stuff now which is every bit as good and honestly probably better cause he probably don't care much about your stuff!