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NEW 30BR Cartridge Guide Online

Bill Norris said:
For the guys looking for a good hunting bullet in the 30BR you may want to try the Nosler 125 gr. Accu-bond. I worked up a load with my rifle and it would definitely work well on deer no doubt. Load was Lapua necked-up and once fired brass - 125 GR. NOSLER AB with 30.0 gr. AA-LT-30 FED 205M PRIMER. My rifle liked these seated @ .024 OTL and produced a 3-shot group measured .230 and followed with a 5-shot group measured .352 Makes me want a light weight hunter in 30BR.
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Barrel twist?
 
Not too bad for a M-7 Hunter with a # 4 Taper 1 - 15 Twist barrel from a Mystic M-pod and rear bag. I think this rifle likes VV-N130 as good as H-4198.

118 GR. BIBS FB HP/M HBN**COATED 1.592 O M 2.348 COL T/L B S .260 B C .330
POWDER VV-N130 34.9 GR. PRIMER CCI 400 .323 BUSHING
SEATED @ 1.587 O M 2.343 COL .005 OTL
 

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Checked out my ODCR 700 BR 30BR today with the 118 gr. Bibs to see how much I would need to spin my E C V2 tuner since there was about 35 - 40 degree Temp. change along with app. 40% drop in Rel/Hum. Setting back in the higher Temps. was @ 40 so I decided to go ahead and back it out to 35 before trying the group. The rifle/tuner made me look like I knew what I was doing as it shot @ .164 @ 100 yds. I had a 10 mph headwind and was watching my home made wind flags (stake with surveyor tape stapled on the top) Looks like I need some practice with that and rightfully so. Bart just recently scolded me for not using them.
 

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I had that happen to me back when I was trying to shoot a 6BR. It would shoot a .0 then a .3, then a .2 and then a .5 I did not know what was wrong and I mentioned the crazy groups. A member asked what are your flags telling you. I replied back with a "What Flags" Learned a lot with that.
 
Bill Norris said:
Checked out my ODCR 700 BR 30BR today with the 118 gr. Bibs to see how much I would need to spin my E C V2 tuner since there was about 35 - 40 degree Temp. change along with app. 40% drop in Rel/Hum. Setting back in the higher Temps. was @ 40 so I decided to go ahead and back it out to 35 before trying the group. The rifle/tuner made me look like I knew what I was doing as it shot @ .164 @ 100 yds. I had a 10 mph headwind and was watching my home made wind flags (stake with surveyor tape stapled on the top) Looks like I need some practice with that and rightfully so. Bart just recently scolded me for not using them.
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You are about .001" out of tune. Just barely move the tuner. Bet that load will go in the same bullet hole..
 
JimPag said:
Little history lesson. Actually the 30BR is older than the 6BR. Although it was not called a 30BR back then. In March of 1961 a cartridge by the name of a 308x1.5-inch Barnes was developed. It's almost a duplicate of todays 30BR. A number of people back in 62&63 necked the 308x1.5-inch up and down. Mike Walker standardized the 6BR Remington in 78. Norma introduced their 6mm Norma BR case in 1996. I wouldn't say a 30BR leaves the 6BR in the dust. It depends on the application. For short range score especially at 100 yards shooting a 6BR is like bringing a knife to a gunfight IMO. In my 9 years of SR score shooting I've never seen a 6BR win a 100 yard agg. I've only seen a 6PPC win a 100 yard agg 2 times. So that says something about a 6 vs a 30 in that particular instance. At 200 and 300 the 6BR is not bad because at those yardages your just trying to stay clean. You might get out x'ed if a few people stay clean at 2 & 300 with a 30, but just staying clean is hard enough at those yardages.
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I'd sort of agree. It's rare to see a 6BR good enough to win a 100 yd VFS match. That said, the first two 250-25x scores were shot with a 6 PPC by the same shooter with two different rifles, one an HV and the other a LV. The whole reason to switch to 30's was for the bigger bullet hole. That said, Gene Beggs once said a 30 BR was the most accurate rifle he ever saw shoot in his tunnel. So, it remains all about barrels, all else being equal.
 
Pete Wass said:
I'd sort of agree. It's rare to see a 6BR good enough to win a 100 yd VFS match. That said, the first two 250-25x scores were shot with a 6 PPC by the same shooter with two different rifles, one an HV and the other a LV. The whole reason to switch to 30's was for the bigger bullet hole. That said, Gene Beggs once said a 30 BR was the most accurate rifle he ever saw shoot in his tunnel. So, it remains all about barrels, all else being equal.
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Absolutely it's all about the barrels.
 
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