Need scope for PRS rifle - 6 dasher - open budget

[onebadstang16]

So wouldn’t you want to be better than others for your customers? Hey just giving my opinion in that I wouldn’t spend $4000 on a scope that gets limited support.

I’ll pass the info along to March, I am not a March employee or make those decisions but I’ll gladly pass the opinion and feedback on. I do know that you would be very hard pressed to find another company that takes more pride in their products I’ve never heard of any March scopes that weren’t absolutely taken care of if the components were still produced to do so which is really why some companies limit the scopes to 10 years.

 

[stavey]

Mikes only had three scopes which he was sold back door by EuroOptic, I actually have sold the most prs scope by a huge margin qty wise. But again he is NOT an authorized dealer for March.

I’ve bought from him (PRSTF) and had a great experience. So have many others on the hide . Can you beat his price ?

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Welcome. You need to talk to your company about their warranty though as its not very good in today’s market. It’s better than it once was when at 5 years but 10 years from manufacturer and only two years on electronics is not good for an expensive optic. If that scope sits on the shelf a year before you buy it then you are down to 9 years of warranty and only one year on electronics. Should be 10 years/2 years from purchase at least.

And for the “the best warranty is the one you never have to use” crowd who always jumps in, that’s true until you do have to need it. PRS rifles and scopes are used hard so being confident in your ability to fix any issues is important.

https://marchscopes.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/March-Scopes-Warranty.pdf

I'll address that one. The 10 year warranty is actually dictated by Japanese law, as I understand it. However, that said, March will repair scopes even after the 10 year has elapsed. I will not promise that there will be no charge, but it's quite likely to be the case. Also, they are in the process of opening a repair center in the USA, it will be in Texas. Should be up and running in Q1 2026. Stay tuned.

 

[Steve Donlon]

If it were me, I'd take a look into March Scopes offerings - First
ZCO and Tangent are head to head - i think it would be good to youtube some reviews though as I believe Tangent takes the lead there for some aspect I forget why, but its gnats hairs.
A lot of the differences in top teir scopes are also more ergo's and user preference features
such as Kahles reverse direction CCW turrets
Don't forget IOR
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I own a Kahles and really like it, I bought it for being robust, a field scope, no brass, no plastic
Steel internals and tungsten balls for the detents, for ELR I am a turret twister.
---so the Kahles is great other than one thing
After 400-600 yds - the Focus - (parallax adjustment on the side) really does nothing further
I like to be able to adjust Focus at 2000 yds
The Kahles did not allow this, basically it is in focus and parallax free from about 400 yds on out
Some experts say - this is an attribute of a high quality optic
If that is true, then I guess I should not complain.
But I am used to my being able to perfectly dial in focus at 1 Mile such as with my B&L scopes
not that the image is at all fuzzy with the Kahles, it's just that even at 1000 yds, the parallax could be dialed in on the 600 yd mark, and you would not notice any difference from if you turned it to infinity.
Someone pointed out that if you are jumping back and forth between yardages, you can set parallax at 400 yds and jump back and forth between that and 1000 and not have to readjust the parallax
This is true, and I do like it for that aspect, I really do not have to adjust parallax back and forth.
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But with the Parallax - Hard to explain but, say at 2000 yds, I like to be able to adjust focus PAST where it is sharp at the distance, and adjust further toward infinity to where the image is fuzzy again
then dial back to sharp again,
So for this feature, I would not choose the Kahles
I even sent my Kahles back to Austria factory asking them to allow/ put in, more parallax adjustment
They must have laughed not understanding that some of us...........shoot wayyyyyy past 1000 yds
and sent it back to me untouched - not even cleaned
They must have done their in house function test and called it good according to their standards
But the Kahles glass is amazing for my eyes - it will literally see right through mirage
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You might ask Eric Cortina how he likes the Kahles 5-40

I have a NF NX8 4-32x50, not in the same class, but the parallax is done at 500 yards. I just got a Athlon Ares 4.5-30x56 moa scope that still has parallax at 1000 yards. On sale for $799. at EuroOptic. Almost 1/2 off the price. Of course it's not in the same class as a $4000 scope, but you would think they could all offer it in other scopes. The Athlon is heavy, but everything else is fine for my eyes.

 

[onebadstang16]

I’ve bought from him (PRSTF) and had a great experience. So have many others on the hide . Can you beat his price ?

I will compete with anyone’s price on the scope, again I am also actually authorized to sell the optics from March directly as opposed to someone buying them from another vendor back door and then selling them.

 

[Rob01]

I'll address that one. The 10 year warranty is actually dictated by Japanese law, as I understand it. However, that said, March will repair scopes even after the 10 year has elapsed. I will not promise that there will be no charge, but it's quite likely to be the case. Also, they are in the process of opening a repair center in the USA, it will be in Texas. Should be up and running in Q1 2026. Stay tuned.

So March is a Japanese company? Just wondering as there are many companies who are made in Japan and have lifetime warranties.

Repairing scopes after the warranty and charging is just repairs. Good that they will do it but not a warranty. Having a US based repair center is a good move and good for their customers here. Always good when companies make it easier on the end user to get repairs or changes done.

 

[marchx]

March FX 5-42x56mm hands down. Kahles is also very nice.

 

[Jim Ziegler]

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say you likely do not own the new PRS March scope, many guys have had absolutely nothing but amazing things to say about the scope.

No i don't own the new PRS March scope, and I'm not discounting March scopes because they are very very nice, but it's hard to take advice from someone that sells a particular brand. It's a sales pitch not an honest camparison.

 

[ballisticdaddy]

I have a few of these alpha scopes and they are all nice but NONE of them are perfect, Glass alone I would go with Tangent Theta, it is the brightest and most crisp edge detail of all my optics. ZCO has the best options of either 10 or 15 mil turrets, offers locking and non-locking but glass not quite as good as TT. Kahles also has great glass but have been having issues with tracking. I would recommend you get to a match or a retailer where you can see what works best for you and your eyes before making a decision.

 

[onebadstang16]

No i don't own the new PRS March scope, and I'm not discounting March scopes because they are very very nice, but it's hard to take advice from someone that sells a particular brand. It's a sales pitch not an honest camparison.

Yea dont take my word for it go look for yourself like so many who have swapped from other tier 1 scopes have done! I encourage everyone to get behind them and make your own choices, the March does have features and things the other brands simply don’t have though but check them out for yourself.

 

[Ironworker]

My name is Brandon Rudge and I am the designer of the FML-WBR reticle and behind much of the March 5-42 Gen 2 PRS edition. The March has done very well already in the prs and many top competitors are switching from other brands. I would be glad to assist anyone who is looking to order or has questions.

As Denys has already eluded to PRSTF is not an authorized dealer for March products. Please feel free to reach out to me on here if you have questions or are looking to procure the March scope.

What does that mean that PRSTF is not an authorized dealer for March products ? Another company in PA has the same item for $500 dollars more.

 

[stavey]

What does that mean that PRSTF is not an authorized dealer for March products ? Another company in PA has the same item for $500 dollars more.

I can tell you this . He’s a solid seller on Snipershide forum with 100% feedback and LOTS of happy customers. I bought a scope from him last week. It was substantially cheaper than anywhere else. He shipped it 2nd day air and threw in a free t shirt. At no charge.. He’s a solid seller. His member name on Snipershide is mmlook. If you use code SH10 he gives 10% off his already low prices. He and PRSTF are legit.

 

[onebadstang16]

I can tell you this . He’s a solid seller on Snipershide forum with 100% feedback and LOTS of happy customers. I bought a scope from him last week. It was substantially cheaper than anywhere else. He shipped it 2nd day air and threw in a free t shirt. At no charge.. He’s a solid seller. His member name on Snipershide is mmlook. If you use code SH10 he gives 10% off his already low prices. He and PRSTF are legit.

Next week he’ll get told again that he’s not a dealer for March products And he’ll also get formal letterhead indicating he is in violation of not only being a dealer but also the map pricing. The next action may be legal.

The fact you continue to promote him after it’s been indicated that he isn’t a dealer for March speaks volumes. Sounds like a more formal interaction needs to take place.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

So March is a Japanese company? Just wondering as there are many companies who are made in Japan and have lifetime warranties.

Repairing scopes after the warranty and charging is just repairs. Good that they will do it but not a warranty. Having a US based repair center is a good move and good for their customers here. Always good when companies make it easier on the end user to get repairs or changes done.

Yes, DEON Optical Design Corp is a Japanese company. They are the designers and manufacturers of the March riflescopes. I am not an expert in Japanese law, I was stating what I had been told. I am also a Nikon aficionado and have quite a few cameras and lenses. Guess what, they all come with 5 year warranties. Nikon is a lot bigger than DEON.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

As far as I know, DEON's warranty repairs is based on the serial number. They know when they made the unit by the serial number. I know of March scopes that have been sold and resold and I have never heard of warranty repair being denied because of provenance issues. I'm not saying it has never happened, I've just never heard about it.

In a few months, US-based March scopes owners will be able to ship their scopes, if they ever need repair, to a location in the USA, where they will repair it and ship it back to the owner. I do not have the details of any of that yet. I do know that March is working very hard to make this happen as quickly as possible.