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My newest worst case to reload .22 TCM

And with your crushed cases? Annealing can cause that. Too soft and the necks get pushed down into the shoulders like you ended up with. Been there. We learn as we go. :)
 
Early on I learned my lesson about over-annealing. Pushing a .30 caliber flat-bottom bullet into a straight walled case isn't a big deal because the case mouth/neck is fully supported. However, the neck and shoulder of a bottle neck case are not directly supported by case body.

My crushed / collapsed most often occurred at or just below the shoulder/body junction. The downward force causing the case to buckle outward slightly. A case gage would indicate this out of spec cartridge.
 
22tcm, what a mess, I will never ever sell those pistols to my clients, I should have done my research when selling them and the outcome I had on my clients, especially when they blamed me for selling such a piece of junk. They complained of alot if jams and blown out extractors.
 
I use a home made brass catcher. 1x4"s made into a square frame and two on the sides to sabilize it. The back is covered in 1/4" garden netting. You can make one as big is you need. Set it on the ejection side of what you are shooting. The brass is all right there easy peasy. I shoot the TCM from a sandbag rest and the brass goes right in. I also use it for all the AR cartridges I shoot.
Thanks. Have done versions of brass catchers, large and small; even one that resembled the "cage" used by WWI pilots for their 1911's. That got some laughs ("Why do you have a basketball hoop attached to your pistol?")
The catchers are great if shooting from only one position. I just like to have more mobility when shooting.
 
NOE has a new powder through funnel that goes inside the Lee rifle powder die. They work great, especially with small calibers like .223. The TCM powder is very small grained, so flows easily through the NOE funnel. I have the Hornady 3 die set that includes the expander die, but the latest set only has the sizer/decap and seating dies.

 
AA2230 works good in the my 20 MGM wildcat so it shouldn't be any problem in the 22 TCM. We're only talking 10+ or - grains. Work it!! ;)
 
Any thoughts to a Lyman type M die to expand the mouth slightly like loading a cast bullet?

What's the deal with spinning the case before seating the bullet?

Or Hornady's seater has a sleeve that slides down over the bullet and neck.of the case to keep it aligned. They make a dedicated 22 TCM die set.
Do you have any problem with the crimping. I can load ten shells and the crimp will be fine but then I load one and I can spin the bullet, and move it around. It’s really ticking me off. I’m using a Hornady lock and load, and everything else is set up fine. Got around 1000 cases I would to get loaded.
 
So, as kind of a report in my world. The cases loaded with 9.5 gr. of H110 loaded behind 45s shot great. With a fair amount of improvement to be had. Thus, I load ten rounds with 9.8 grs and going to see how they shoot tomorrow.
On the flip side, I didn't have time to narrow down what NOE plug I wanted so I took my 7mm TCU fl dies and used that. Not full depth but just enough. It made a nice cup and the bullets seated easy-peasy. Again, going to test ten rounds tomorow.
 
Congratulations - That sounds great. As far as an NOE Plug size, I would recommend .002" larger than the bullet diameter (.226"). There will be some springback so actual expansion will be more like maybe .0015", which will be just enough for bullet to fit into top of case neck.
 
Since the stock bullets from Armscor seem to have disappeared, I bought a box of Sierra Varminter 40 grain HP and a box of Nosler Varmageddon 40 grain FB tipped to try out. When I tried seating, both bullets ran out of ogive and fell into the case, COAL of 1.285 as listed in the Western Powders data. Gave up on the Sierras, but by cutting off the FB tip on the Noslers I could get that COAL. Had previously tried the 35 grain Hornady V-Max and that was a no-go also. Any ideas? Thanks!
 
So, felt I needed to get back and give a report on this. I didn't go out and buy an SOE plug. The 7mm TCU with the tapered expander ball (lifted up a bit) worked great through the whole batch of nearly 200. The 9.8 gr shot well enough that I don't need to work up anymore.

The killer here was my 'apple test'. I'm too cheap for watermelons and not willing to wait until they come in season. I bought a bag of apples for $2.78, First I tested how a high velocity .22 LR looked at ten yards on an apple. It basically made holes through the center and a wide furrow on the side. But, the apple stayed on the stand. When I shot it with the .22 TCM, the first shot blew the apple in the air about 4 ft. and 4 ft. to the right. I went up to see what was left of the apple and there was only about 1/4 of it intact. The rest was just shreds laying around it. WOW! You don't want to get your apples in front of that thing!

This was the pic of the .22 LR hitting the apple. Unfortunately, I deleted the pic of what happened after the .22TCM hit it. Stupid moment of clearing phone pics that aren't needed.
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