Military Service?

[jamesdmock]

If you want examples of stolen valor, research Lyndon Johnson's Silver Star, Danang Blumenthal's tour in Viet Nam, and Creepy Joe's statement of his son Beau's return to US in flag- draped coffin. There are many others, but all are based on LIES about their service. James Mock O5423029, US Army.

 

[Propbndr]

Rate in the USN

Right. I feel the same way.

It won't be long before people in this country will need a power toilet to suck the crap out of their butts because they'll be too lazy and dumb to do it themselves.

The Navy uses NEC (Navy Enlisted Classification) for the specific job we were trained for. The Rating is the overall ”job” we had. My rating was “ET” (Electronics Technician). I had multiple NEC’s behind that.

 

[David Milisock]

I have my DD214 and my reserve ID card. I've carefully stored them because as a Gulf War vet I thought it likely I'd have medical issues at some point. Like you, I've not needed to show either one to anyone yet but thus far I've not needed to claim any VA benefits apart from a VA loan for my first home.

I hold a very dim view of those who steal Valor. There are Vietnam Nam vets, Korea vets, Gulf War vets and Afghanistan vets in my family. Many have medical related issues that they suffer with daily. To attempt to identify with those groups.......

well if people like that were on fire I'd not piss on them.

I got out like everyone had my issues but married a good woman, worked hard, ran my business, raised kids and grandchildren.

I'm grateful for my VA medical benefits, I'd be dead right now if I didn't have them. In my opinion the benefit process needs to be simplified so it's easier to understand. We all had our own service experience and all who served deserve an easy process to get what they earned.

 

[David Milisock]

Agreed. Retirees are the only people I've seen with military ID cards after being discharged.

Maybe disabled vets get ID cards after being discharged for regular VA visits? Not sure on that...

I served 4 years honorably and while i did have an ID card during active duty, I have never received any sort of ID card showing proof of service after my EAOS. My DD214 is the only way I can prove it because the date on my active duty card expired on my EAOS and therfor is not accepted as proof of military service. I was placed on 6 years of inactive reserve following my active duty enlistment, but I still did not receive any form of ID card even during the reserve time.

I got out from the Navy in 75, service connected injury, I had my DD214 and discharge papers only until I was 66 years old and went to have a covered leg surgery at the VA. Only then did I get a VA ID.

 

[dhagerty40]

Not discharged early but they did give me a parting 'gift'. Passed the exam and was promoted to E5 with the responsibilities that went with it but never got paid for it. For a year. Budget cuts.

you did bring up something. I remember they started the largest Military force reduction since WWII in 1991. I remember it started as a 25% Reduction and Congress increased it to 36%, then cut everybody's budget also.

at least the Navy did the reduction with some dignity and respect to it's people. I just remember the Army went and Gave a bunch of people a check for 2K, and sent them on their way out the door (no matter how many years they served) to meet the reduction.

The VA probably got hit the worst. they had all these service members dumped on them at the same time with no increase in budget. I myself got so pissed off at the waiting times, I never went for my initial interview.

 

[dhagerty40]

And now for the OP, did we help any or did we just confuse you more with our Ramblings?

 

[dryhumor]

I think I’ve met more Seals, Rangers, and snipers through the years than I ever met while on active duty…. And as stated by others, most of those folks are quiet about what they’ve accomplished. You might never know until you see them in dress uniform. I was at my warrant officers retirement ceremony, and as they read off the list of accomplishments and what he went through for each particular award, I damn near teared up.

The poser shitbirds are pretty easy to see through. They can never give specifics, nor can they recognize a name of someone who you knew was there when they say they were.

There are always “events” that occurred that others know about that experienced them or heard about while on a base or ship.

 

[5spd]

Id have no problem asking the person to see his dd214, va card (not all are with them) if he is talking about his past service and it don't sound, look right especially if he's becoming a part of a group you are in.
If it sounds off or like B.S. it usually is.
Vets don't go around talking about their time in service especially with new people they meet. All my veteran friends never mention service times with outsiders. My 2 sons are combat vets, 1 at 100%, other no injuries, they talk to me or their service pals, but never to anyone else.
I am a 60% vet and don't spout off about the past time either.

 

[DShortt]

The Navy uses NEC (Navy Enlisted Classification) for the specific job we were trained for. The Rating is the overall ”job” we had. My rating was “ET” (Electronics Technician). I had multiple NEC’s behind that.

All I remember was that I was an AE. I've slept too many times since then to remember anything more.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

The Navy uses NEC (Navy Enlisted Classification) for the specific job we were trained for. The Rating is the overall ”job” we had. My rating was “ET” (Electronics Technician). I had multiple NEC’s behind that.

Yeah. "A" School was the training for your job rating and "C" schools were specialization training of that rating. I was an Interior Communications Electrician with AN/WSN-5 classification. A couple years later I went to SAR Swimmer school in Jacksonville, FL but that didn't have anything to do with my rate.

On a side note. If a person wanted to go Spec Ops, like SEAL training, they only permitted specific ratings to apply. At least that's how it was when I served from 98-02. My IC rating was on the list but i never tried out for SEAL training.

 

[okie]

View attachment 1469203
Here’s an example of a forearm in 2015.
Agent orange pops up decades later for no reason
Probably Agent Purple

my dad had that on lis lower legs after he got home. never went away...

 

[M-61]

The switch from serial numbers to SSN happened around December 1970. I know because I was in Navy boot camp. They said they were running out of numbers. I called bs on that because my serial started with the letter “D” followed by 6 numbers. By my calculations they had over 200 million numbers left. Because of identity theft, there was talk about going back to serial numbers. I am not sure if they ever did.

About 2015 they were instructed to stop use of SS numbers. As of now they are still working on it.
Interestingly I know nobody at all who in in the service at all.

And now for the OP, did we help any or did we just confuse you more with our Ramblings?

Actuality it’s not ramblings. I get your point but remember if you’re not confused you don’t understand the problem.
Also some very interesting rambling did come out and it’s one of the very few posts that I have read every single thing.
I agree with your statement but aside from possibly not helping the OP I think many important points were made that while not helping the OP helps others. I learned a good bit and unfortunately my responses are really rambling on though I try not to.

 

[KMart]

The switch from serial numbers to SSN happened around December 1970. I know because I was in Navy boot camp. They said they were running out of numbers. I called bs on that because my serial started with the letter “D” followed by 6 numbers. By my calculations they had over 200 million numbers left. Because of identity theft, there was talk about going back to serial numbers. I am not sure if they ever did.

The Army stopped using SSN's and went to a DOD number somewhere around 2015.

In Major Change, Army Removes Social Security Numbers from Dog Tags

U.S. Army dog tags will no longer include soldiers’ Social Security numbers, the Army announced on Tuesday, ending a more than 40-year identification system.

www.military.com

 

[dhagerty40]

About 2015 they were instructed to stop use of SS numbers. As of now they are still working on it.
Interestingly I know nobody at all who in in the service at all.

Actuality it’s not ramblings. I get your point but remember if you’re not confused you don’t understand the problem.
Also some very interesting rambling did come out and it’s one of the very few posts that I have read every single thing.
I agree with your statement but aside from possibly not helping the OP I think many important points were made that while not helping the OP helps others. I learned a good bit and unfortunately my responses are really rambling on though I try not to.

Ok, I kind of worded that wrong. I was kind of wondering if the OP was getting any help as he has not posted since the thread started.

 

[Propbndr]

To the OP, unless you are a reporter with ”source”, short of asking for proof of service from your friend, I know if no way you can prove or disprove their honesty. I personally have no use for liars. Lie to me once and I will never trust you again. I hold stolen valor in even lower regard. Depending on what they are saying and how they are using the information, if untrue, they could be violating the Stolen Valor Act of 2013.

 

[karrarararararar]

The Army stopped using SSN's and went to a DOD number somewhere around 2015.

In Major Change, Army Removes Social Security Numbers from Dog Tags

U.S. Army dog tags will no longer include soldiers’ Social Security numbers, the Army announced on Tuesday, ending a more than 40-year identification system.

www.military.com

Same with the Air Force. Most of our stuff has transitioned to using DOD ID numbers.

 

[Rick in Oregon]

Rick, great pic.
No nothing about the Navy so I’ll ask, were you in the Brown water Navy?

M-61....not really, more of a in between of the two.
We were classified as 'Combat Support", landing armored Cav, armor and sometimes Marines on about every beach in SRVN from DaNang to almost Cambodia near An Thoi at the southern tip of RVN. Our LCM's and LCVP boats were kept on board our mothership, USS Tulare (AKA-112).

We spent much time around central country, Cam Rhan Bay and vicinity, supporting ops up the many rivers that drain into the bay there, no real combat unless you call taking pot-shots from some VC farmers whenever they got the chance, which they seemed pretty good at. Being a Radioman then, I only called in air support one time and got two sweet A1 Skyraiders to answer the call. As expected, they did a bang-up job.

A day in the jungle on one of the rare occasions the river was deep enough for the Old Girl:



When at sea usually between RVN and Okinawa or the PI, we were "Blue Water Navy", but when in country, I suppose we qualified for the "Brown Water" moniker.

 

[M-61]

Thanks for all the information.
Yes ‘Sandies’ in air support are outstanding. (A-1E’s and A-1H’s Huge loiter time!
Man the southern tip of Vietnam and out to ConSon island is a no man’s land!

 

[M-61]

If you want examples of stolen valor, research Lyndon Johnson's Silver Star, Danang Blumenthal's tour in Viet Nam, and Creepy Joe's statement of his son Beau's return to US in flag- draped coffin. There are many others, but all are based on LIES about their service. James Mock O5423029, US Army.

Senator Blumenthal (CT) outright lied about serving in Vietnam. He said he was misunderstood. He then got re-elected.
Brian Dennehy ( the actor) claimed he did FIVE tours in Vietnam. Five really got my attention. It’s ok though, he later apologized saying it was an error.
He never served in Vietnam.

 

[rebs]

My discharge certificate was lost in a house fire, do any of you guys know how I can get a replacement if possible?