Midwest 415

[9mmAnimal]

Bought 8lbs of Midwest 415,comperable to hodgdon 335 loading some 223s 55 grain bullet max load is 24.5 grains what should the minimum be. Any ideas,hodgdon says 335 min is 21.4

 

[hoz53]

Bought 9lbs of Midwest 415,operable to hodgdon 345 loading some 223s 55 grain bullet max load is 24.5 grains what should the minimum be. Any ideas,hodgdon says 335 min is 21.4

youre saying u purchased a powder called Midwest 415? i never heard of midwest powder

 

[SD guy]

Looks like Midwest has marketed surplus powders as 410, 413, 414, 415, 417 & 418 claiming these are similar to H335. Can't offer much more than that.

 

[brokeasajoke]

youre saying u purchased a powder called Midwest 415? i never heard of midwest powder

American reloading. This powder must be a repack of pull downs as they sell a lot of pulled bullets. I got over 500 Hornady .308 interlocks for like $50 something my last order and about the same for 500 Nosler ASP HP 9mm but I had to sort weight for both.

 

[hoz53]

American reloading. This powder must be a repack of pull downs as they sell a lot of pulled bullets. I got over 500 Hornady .308 interlocks for like $50 something my last order and about the same for 500 Nosler ASP HP 9mm but I had to sort weight for both.

thanks for the info Broke——. i suppose we will hear more about this company

 

[fkimble@charter.net]

Go with the Hodgen min and work up slowly.

Frank

 

[SeabeeKen]

Its pull down powder and will have a label that says similar to ....
There are a number of variations of a powder due to variations in lot numbers.

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

They recommend starting 10% under max. 22.0 would be a starting point with 55 fmj.

 

[brokeasajoke]

They usually give load info for one particular cartridge.

 

[9mmAnimal]

youre saying u purchased a powder called Midwest 415? i never heard of midwest powder

Got it from American reloading, other people said it's ok,I was told it's military overrun powder also people that bought it said it's ok,at $209 for 8lbs not bad no hazmat charges, look at it American reloading, heading out in the next couple of days to chronograph it,21 grains to 25 grains 3 bullets each number. I'll put up how it looks FPS

 

[9mmAnimal]

American reloading. This powder must be a repack of pull downs as they sell a lot of pulled bullets. I got over 500 Hornady .308 interlocks for like $50 something my last order and about the same for 500 Nosler ASP HP 9mm but I had to sort weight for both.

I bought 1000 223 bullets said it's 62/55 grains $75 got 24 62 grain and all the rest was 55 to 57 grains all blems no accuracy there just plinking wanted the 62s for subsonics.

 

[9mmAnimal]

Go with the Hodgen min and work up slowly.

Frank

That's my plan,thanks

 

[padom]

I own and have shot and tested TONS of these MW powders from American for many years. Excellent stuff. Used to get 8lb jugs for under $100 prior to COVID..

I have MW equivalents of VV N133, N550, N555, H335, BL-C2, Longshot, W572, 8208, and many others.

They have all shot EXCELLENT.... You just need to do load workup with it...


Right around 26gr was stupid accurate with Hornady 62 FMJ-BT and SS109's with my MW H335 equivalent our of a 16" Wilson Combat AR...

 

[9mmAnimal]

Bought 8lbs of Midwest 415,comperable to hodgdon 335 loading some 223s 55 grain bullet max load is 24.5 grains what should the minimum be. Any ideas,hodgdon says 335 min is 21.4

 

[9mmAnimal]

I own and have shot and tested TONS of these MW powders from American for many years. Excellent stuff. Used to get 8lb jugs for under $100 prior to COVID..

I have MW equivalents of VV N133, N550, N555, H335, BL-C2, Longshot, W572, 8208, and many others.

They have all shot EXCELLENT.... You just need to do load workup with it...


Right around 26gr was stupid accurate with Hornady 62 FMJ-BT and SS109's with my MW H335 equivalent our of a 16" Wilson Combat AR...

Thanks going out tomorrow chronograph some loads see what I got

 

[hoz53]

I own and have shot and tested TONS of these MW powders from American for many years. Excellent stuff. Used to get 8lb jugs for under $100 prior to COVID..

I have MW equivalents of VV N133, N550, N555, H335, BL-C2, Longshot, W572, 8208, and many others.

They have all shot EXCELLENT.... You just need to do load workup with it...


Right around 26gr was stupid accurate with Hornady 62 FMJ-BT and SS109's with my MW H335 equivalent our of a 16" Wilson Combat AR...

thanks- be interesting to know where it actually comes from

 

[brokeasajoke]

I'm waiting for "Similar to Unique" to be available again. That stuff goes fast. Honestly though as I just looked, since they are $209.99 I may look at standard commercial powders. You can find Vihtavuori for 279.99 with known load data. I'm a cheapskate as I have to be but at $10 a pound difference for unknown powder. The upside is their price is delivered.

 

[padom]

I'm waiting for "Similar to Unique" to be available again. That stuff goes fast. Honestly though as I just looked, since they are $209.99 I may look at standard commercial powders. You can find Vihtavuori for 279.99 with known load data. I'm a cheapskate as I have to be but at $10 a pound difference for unknown powder. The upside is their price is delivered.

Yea they aren't the amazing deals they used to be. At this point a few more dollars and you can buy the real thing.. was the best kept secret for a long time when you could get 16 or 32lb for the price of 8lb jug of the real thing...

The brass and bullets are good deals still though. I've bought tons of the Norma 45acp, 9mm, 10mm and 5.56 primed new pulled brass. Stuff looks brand new and shoots excellent

These are either pull down powder or milsurp. And a lot of times they say...

 

[9mmAnimal]

Go with the Hodgen min and work up slowly.

Frank

Testing the 415 powder from American reloading/Midwest powders is in.
All bullets were 55 grain 3 bullets average each grain number
20 grains 2365 fps
21 grains 2507 fps
22 grains 2660 fps
23 grains 2816 fps
24 grains 2980 fps
25 grains 3113 fps
I read another post about Midwest powders the person loaded 26 grains said it was perfect,stupid accurate was his words

 

[hoz53]

Bought 8lbs of Midwest 415,comperable to hodgdon 335 loading some 223s 55 grain bullet max load is 24.5 grains what should the minimum be. Any ideas,hodgdon says 335 min is 21.4

went to american reloading and it says all midwest powders are sold out. if they get some back in stock in future i may try them.