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[kram]

Back in the days of long ago... (like 7-8 years ago but we are in a golden age of development).
Varget was one of the first powders developed with very stable temperature sensitivity. Many of us developed loads based on Varget. It works great with .308 - especially with bullets over 165gr. It works great with .223 - especially with bullets over 60gr. It can be loaded in winter and shot pretty much unchanged all year 'round. (Remember - this was 5 B.C. (before Creedmoor)).

Yes, there are other powders out there. Yes, they are better. Yes, we are to lazy to work up a new load. Yes, yes, yes - flame on haters. (putting this here for the inevitable quoting later)

The timing of Varget reaching market coincided with the explosion of long-range shooting. It is what many of us cut our teeth on and what we developed with. When it goes on sale I buy 16-24lbs, always saying "This is the last", and it never is. It is just too easy to work with.

I am; however, slowly starting to switch to CFE-223. It is cheap, always available, and meters like water.

Maybe not the explanation you were looking for, but maybe it helps.

All the commonly used ADI powders have this consistency in different atmospheric conditions. Unless things have changed recently, Varget is re-labelled ADI 2208. I don't know if you guys Stateside get ADI labelled powder on the shelves, but if you do 2208 is what you are looking for. ADI 2206H is a good alternative if you can't get your Varget or ADI 2208. The burn rate is a tiny bit faster. If you have a longer sort of barrel, ADI 2209 will also be worth looking at, it's a tiny bit slower.
The Winchester powder equivalent of ADI 2208/Varget, is 748. The Winchester equivalent of ADI 2209 is 760. ( Disclaimer; Hope this helps those who don't already know...)

 

[Jdne5b]

All the commonly used ADI powders have this consistency in different atmospheric conditions. Unless things have changed recently, Varget is re-labelled ADI 2208. I don't know if you guys Stateside get ADI labelled powder on the shelves, but if you do 2208 is what you are looking for. ADI 2206H is a good alternative if you can't get your Varget or ADI 2208. The burn rate is a tiny bit faster. If you have a longer sort of barrel, ADI 2209 will also be worth looking at, it's a tiny bit slower.
The Winchester powder equivalent of ADI 2208/Varget, is 748. The Winchester equivalent of ADI 2209 is 760. ( Disclaimer; Hope this helps those who don't already know...)

We dont get ADI labeled powders. The US Winchester 748 is a ball powder, and is very temp sensitive. It's nowhere near the equivalent of Varget (a stick powder).

 

[Stumpy1]

Kram,

I find your above note a bit difficult to believe as Varget, H4895, and H4350 (ADI 2208/2206H/2209) are all stick powders and all the Winchester powders you reference are BALL powders.

If you mean more-or-less equivalent in burn rate, OK, maybe so, but these Winchester powders are certainly NOT direct equivalents and should not be used as direct replacement without proper load workup.

See this link for the Acc Shooter info; http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/12/hodgdon-equivalents-for-adi-product-codes/


Frank

 

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