Leveling AnD scale

[Straightshooter1]

I would agree to set it up once and don't touch it. But I don't have the room on my bench for a permanent home.

Same here . . . not a lot of bench room.

Here what I tried to describe looks like so that it's just a matter of positioning the feet in the right place and the bubble goes right where it's supposed to be:

 

[itchyTF]

Have you tested your scalp slightly off level to see if less than perfection is adequate?

I don’t think my scalp has ever been level!

 

[gdbleb]

Three points define a flat plane, a fourth point or leveling leg will just have you chasing your tail.

Just break out the old matchbook like the waitress does for a bar table.

 

[M-61]

Lyman - move to 1/2 point on beam to take stress off knife edges - that's what they say - so I just follow theire instructions, hopefully they know what they're talking about.

Bottom line is my balance works correctly without having to tear it down after each reloading session. I like to reload a little at a time so anything that minimizes set up time without placing the equipment in harm's way appeals to me.

PS: Using this method, it almost always zeros out without having to make any adjustments.

Thanks for the information.
Your last two paragraphs are an exact reflection of what I do.

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

I've always kept my beam balance assembled on a shelf on the loading bench at eye level. When not in use, per the mfg.'s instructions, I position the beam by moving the counterweight to 250 grain line then cover it with a dust cover.

Been doing it this way for about 50 years and never had a problem with this process and I do check the precision of the balance every couple of months with calibration weights. Once a year I clean the anvils and knife edges.

Tearing it down, resetting it every time you want to reload would be tedious for me and I've never seen the need to do this. Reloading is painful enough, no sense making it worse.

the 250 gr maxes it out for less wear and tear? disregard, half way on the beam..

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

the 250 gr maxes it out for less wear and tear? disregard, half way on the beam..

I suppose a piece of felt under the knife edges would work.

 

[Shooter13]

My frustration is getting the bubble in the center. I guess I will just keep practicing.

When the shop is too cold I do the powder drops and bullet seating inside. So need to level it again.

As I am sure you already now there is a slight delay in that bubble moving, I make an adjustment and wait, do something else and in 10-20 seconds look again, this has really helped me center that thing! It appears that is a very thick (heavy) liquid in the level and takes a moment to move. Good luck!

 

[nmkid]

As I am sure you already now there is a slight delay in that bubble moving, I make an adjustment and wait, do something else and in 10-20 seconds look again, this has really helped me center that thing! It appears that is a very thick (heavy) liquid in the level and takes a moment to move. Good luck!

Could this be the winner?

 

[K22]

the 250 gr maxes it out for less wear and tear? disregard, half way on the beam..

That's what Lyman claims. I follow their instructions when the balance is not in use. I move the poise to the 250-grain mark which is halfway on the beam. The beam is tilted down. Then I cover with a modified plastic bag to act as a dust cover.

If you have an issue with this, take it up with them, not me. Call their customer service and have a debate with them. I have no "horse in the race."

 

[michaelb]

So my AnD scale gets put away after every loading. And when it comes out it needs to get leveled again. And that is when the whiskey comes out.



What ithe the fastest way to get the bubble centered with the least frustration?Thanks

"And that is when the whiskey comes out." This might be the most accurate, contrasting statement ever.
Meanwhile, trying to stop laughing as I get a visual of this unfolding....

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

That's what Lyman claims. I follow their instructions when the balance is not in use. I move the poise to the 250-grain mark which is halfway on the beam. The beam is tilted down. Then I cover with a modified plastic bag to act as a dust cover.

If you have an issue with this, take it up with them, not me. Call their customer service and have a debate with them. I have no "horse in the race."

No, I was saying disregard MY prior post. 250gr is halfway on the beam. Originally, I read it to mean 'max out the weight' then I figured out my error. Cheers, K22.

 

[Chiquita]

So I decided to get the scale on a piece of hard board. With the board on my bench and the scale on it, I leveled the scale. Drew lines on my bench as a reference and tied the scale to that board.

So when I pull it out next time I will line up to the lines and the scale is leveled and ready to go. However, this setup is only good for this position. I guess I can get some adjusting bolts on the board then I can take it anywhere.

Will see how this works.

 

[Webster]

So my AnD scale gets put away after every loading. And when it comes out it needs to get leveled again. And that is when the whiskey comes out.



What ithe the fastest way to get the bubble centered with the least frustration?Thanks

I leveled samples under a microscope for many years. You have to have 3 legs for support not 4. You leave 1 leg without adjustment, it becomes the std height to adjust to. Adjustment goes very fast. Just 2 screws to turn. If you try adjusting 4 legs it's a nightmare because changing any of the four changes the proper ht. for the other 3. It's a vicious circle. Like others said what supports the scale is important. A wood bench probably moves around with temp and humidity changes. Best to check before each session.

 

[Chiquita]

Thank you for your replies.

As always learned something.

 

[newbieshooter]

What are the W/L dimensions on that scale ?
Just curious

 

[Trevor60]

Like others have suggested granite top. If cost is an issue visit a kitchen counter top maker and see if you can work a deal for leftover piece from a sink cut out.

It took several tries to figure out how to level the AnD. The biggest take away is the legs does not level on a straight line.

Looking at the scale with on/off on the left and orange re-set on the right,
- Moving the right leg moves the bubble in \ this direction. After i figured it out I took smaller turns and was able to get it level much sooner.
- Starting with the legs fully extended seem to move the scale less, than starting fully retracted

I prefer to keep mine setup all the time.

Cheers
Trevor

 

[fx77]

I have done the dimples.

I don't understand why the unit doesn't have four leveling legs. It seems to me that would be easier.

If three non colinear points determine a plane, why are there not only three legs?

 

[Old Navy]

So -- the hood of my Jeep isn't good enough?? jd

Might be. Run a test and let us know.

 

[divingin]

I have done the dimples.

I don't understand why the unit doesn't have four leveling legs. It seems to me that would be easier.

4 feet means it will rock if they're not set correctly. 3 will not rock no matter how it's set.

 

[powderbrake]

AS others have said, mark the location of the feet.
Adjust the level slightly......... then WAIT. The bubble moves very slowly.
Make another adjustment , .........then WAIT. allow the bubble time to move.

Make small adjustments.