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Leveled and Aligned!

This is the fifth time I have done all this. This time it was after watching a master do it.

My PM 1340 GT went in a newly built garage last year. Now the lathe is only 1350lbs on the stand, but still, new concrete can settle some.

The first thing I did was calibrate the level. That showed me the lathe had settled quite a bit. I worked on it for 3-4 hours in between some other stuff I had to do. I would make an adjustment, let it settle for a bit, and recheck. The PM 1340 GT is light and stiff, so it resisted untwisting. I got it close then left it overnight. In the morning it was very close and only needed some minor tweaks.

Then I checked the headstock. I found a 12" piece of 1.25" aluminum rod. I chucked it up in the three-jaw with 6" sticking out. I made .005" cuts--it took three to completely clean up the rod. I measured with my Mitutoyo 2" micrometer and discovered the headstock was .002" out over 6".

So I took the time to figure out how to adjust the headstock. Along with the micrometer you need these tools for the PM1340 GT:

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This took a while. You lightly loosen four headstock retaining bolts, loosen an allen head screw that locks the adjustment, then make a minor adjustment on one of the two headstock alignment allen head screws. Then you have to make another very light test cut on the bar in the chuck. When I got it done, it looked like this:

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So that is .0003" over 6". I would have been happy with .001" over 6". This is an engine lathe, not a tool room lathe. I don't know if it will keep that level of alignment.

Then on the the tailstock. It too was out a couple thousandths, maybe more. Here is how that turned out:

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The Edge alignment bar is very accurate. We validated it on another lathe after sweeping the tailstock with an indicator in the chuck.

I don't know if any of this will make my LRBR rifles shoot any better, or if my tenons or chambers will be any better. However, this is as good as I can get my lathe I think.
 
This is the fifth time I have done all this. This time it was after watching a master do it.

My PM 1340 GT went in a newly built garage last year. Now the lathe is only 1350lbs on the stand, but still, new concrete can settle some.

The first thing I did was calibrate the level. That showed me the lathe had settled quite a bit. I worked on it for 3-4 hours in between some other stuff I had to do. I would make an adjustment, let it settle for a bit, and recheck. The PM 1340 GT is light and stiff, so it resisted untwisting. I got it close then left it overnight. In the morning it was very close and only needed some minor tweaks.

Then I checked the headstock. I found a 12" piece of 1.25" aluminum rod. I chucked it up in the three-jaw with 6" sticking out. I made .005" cuts--it took three to completely clean up the rod. I measured with my Mitutoyo 2" micrometer and discovered the headstock was .002" out over 6".

So I took the time to figure out how to adjust the headstock. Along with the micrometer you need these tools for the PM1340 GT:

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This took a while. You lightly loosen four headstock retaining bolts, loosen an allen head screw that locks the adjustment, then make a minor adjustment on one of the two headstock alignment allen head screws. Then you have to make another very light test cut on the bar in the chuck. When I got it done, it looked like this:

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So that is .0003" over 6". I would have been happy with .001" over 6". This is an engine lathe, not a tool room lathe. I don't know if it will keep that level of alignment.

Then on the the tailstock. It too was out a couple thousandths, maybe more. Here is how that turned out:

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The Edge alignment bar is very accurate. We validated it on another lathe after sweeping the tailstock with an indicator in the chuck.

I don't know if any of this will make my LRBR rifles shoot any better, or if my tenons or chambers will be any better. However, this is as good as I can get my lathe I think.
I love the edge bar. I use it and the toolpost indicator everytime i have my chuck off
 
BTW, PM says it's easy to adjust the headstock on a 1340GT but that the 1440GT is a while different animal and they don't recommending aligning the 1440GT headstock. They want you to shim between the stand and the base for it.
 
So it did indeed make a difference in the chamber I just cut. Sometimes with a floating reamer holder, the pilot is not perfectly aligned with the bore.....it's off just a little. After my alignment, the pilot was aligned exactly.

Typically, I would get another .001" of crush when torquing a 18 TPI action after headspacing in the lathe. Not today. Hand tight was the same exact headspace as torqued.

Also, this is the best looking chamber 8 have ever cut. Glad it's in an LRBR, where that might matter....
 
You keep raising the bar Intj. What with all the talk of oil flushing systems, spiders, alignment tools and self adjusting chucks a old pensioner could go broke trying to keep up. :)

Keep up the good work. However, it's time to get that lathe dirty. I'm afraid to show pictures of mine. And I do make a passing effort at cleaning it on occasion.
 
You keep raising the bar Intj. What with all the talk of oil flushing systems, spiders, alignment tools and self adjusting chucks a old pensioner could go broke trying to keep up. :)

Keep up the good work. However, it's time to get that lathe dirty. I'm afraid to show pictures of mine. And I do make a passing effort at cleaning it on occasion.
Hes an air force pilot. “Squared away” is what he is.
 
I am sure @Dusty Stevens and many others here remember the "light coming on" phase of their machining skills development. It's cool to be having that experience in my sixties.

I discovered something else today. The engraved angle marks on the compound on the PM 1440GT at work are off by one degree. The compound needs to be rotated one mark to the right to match what I have measured with two angle gauges against both the chuck and the chuck mounting flange, in multiple locations.

Now for cones and sig tapers I have been measuring off the chuck anyway. It also no big deal for turning and facing with the power feeds. It would have been a little off when timing a barrel or brake, but going a max of .020" with a 1 degree error isn't that much.

However, this also means I have been doing all my threading at 28.5 degrees. The threads have looked great.

I called PM and they said that was unusual but not even Taiwan lathes are perfect.

My PM 1340 GT at home is spot on with the compound degree marks. However, over the weekend my tenon threads were just a tad rough. One light pass with a threading file fixed that, but I a suspect that 29 degrees is a better setting for me than 29.5 when threading.
 
It really doesnt matter on that angle. Lots of machinists plunge straight in. I use 29.5 and feed with the compound myself but have went straight in too
 
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It really doesnt matter on that angle. Lots of machinists plunge straight in. I use 29.5 and feed with the compound myself but have went straight in too

I've played with both ways. Depends on the inserts. Carmex BXC 60 degree inserts don't seem to care how they're run. The pitch specific ones end up a little nicer with the compound.

If I'm using the compound I'll use the cross-slide for the last couple thou. Cleans up the right hand side of the thread - which is what's in contact with the action.
 
You should see bamban’s shop. You could let a baby crawl in there in a white onesie after hes been in there working all day
Ignorance might be bliss in these kinds of circumstances. :)

My shop door is 12 high by 20 wide, I open that and the leaves, dirt and pollen start filling the shop. It's a constant battle against the elements.
 

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