Let's talk 6mm-06

[nastynatesfish]

Just picked up a. Like now savage 110 3006 for 175 bucks. I'm thinking of either a rebarrel to 25-06 or now a 6-06. Looking at components I have and stuff I'd need to get. 6mm definately gets the wave in bullet choice and availability. What's the survey say?

 

[Frankr]

it will shoot great for about 500 round's then you will need a new barrel.
I vote make it a 284 win throated long or a 280AI.

 

[nastynatesfish]

I've got 7mms covered. I've read anywhere from 800-1200 rounds running it hot. Can get barrels for 199 so that's not a huge issue

 

[HillbillyLongRifle]

I would just make a 6mm Ackley

 

[Changeling]

The 6mm-06 burning out in 500 rounds is ridiculous. This could only be accomplished if the user is foolish enough to fire it continuous until the barrel heat destroyed the throat and adjacent rifling

This caliber is a really a decent one. It is based on the parent 3006 necked down to 6mm.

Velocities are fairly high and accuracy is great if a quality barrel and consistent reloading techniques are used, and you keep the barrel very CLEAN.
However one has to remember that it IS an over bore cartridge and as such has to be fired slowly. If you keep/let the barrel cool between shots you should have no problems out to 1000 rounds or so .
It is NOT a chambering you should use for a prairie dog rifle, but is great for ground hogs and hunting where the barrel can be kept somewhat cool.

Some here think my language is really bad! I'm currently in recovery from a bad wreck and concussion. If it bothers you, ignore, or send me a PM for an apology.

 

[Changeling]

I would just make a 6mm Ackley

Me to, it's a great caliber, used correctly.

 

[tonysnoo]

Are you wanting to stay with a long case because you have ton of 06 brass?

If not, many of the short case setups are so much more efficient and have lots more barrel life. I have read rave reviews of the 6MM completion match for making lots of velocity and having great barrel life. My favorite is my 6MM SLR for similar reasons, plus no fire forming. There are tons of other combos out there without burning all that powder.

Another really fun round off .06 brass is a 6.5-06. Tons of bullet choices too...still burning more powder, however.

Good Luck, let us know how you did.

 

[nastynatesfish]

I've got 500 pcs of Norma 25-06 brass. I used 100 of it working in the 25-06 but I'm getting rid of it. I'm going to build another 25-06 off a Mauser I have. I was thinking of the 6.5-06 also but that's just one more component to buy

 

[BD100]

Just built a 6-06 for long range hogs, coyotes and whitetails. Love it!!! I had a 25-06 and lots of brass already, so the 6-06 was an easy choice. I looked real hard at the 6 Ackley and the 6-284, but I'm a hunter and wanted a reliable feeder and also wasn't real excited about fire forming brass. The 6-06 was an easy plug and play for the long action 25-06. In addition, making 6-06 brass from 25-06 is as easy as running it through a 6-06 sizing die.


As for barrel life. I did lots of research on it and it seems most are getting around 1500 rounds, which should last me many years. The extra powder burned over a 6 Ackley means nothing. Powder is cheap.

If you go 6-06, do a fast twist so you can shoot heavies. Run the numbers on a 105 VLD at 3300 fps. It's an eye opener.

 

[Changeling]

If you want to keep the numbers you refer to KEEP THE BARREL CLEAN! Don't mean to hollar something that is said over and over, but, it's the absolute truth! That and keep your shots slow and cool.

 

[mikegaiz]

I have shot out 3 barrels with the 6/06, love them. I use molly and ball powder get around 1500 good shots. I like the 85 to 95 bullets. Could try the 6.5/06 better on bigger game, but only a little easier on barrel.

 

[Dvldawg]

Survey says: 6mm-06 I built one last year on a Rem.700 using a Brux #4 fluted 28" barrel, burning N160 and shooting the Berger 95gr. VLD Hunting Bullets w/ Nosler Brass. All the info that I have seen, suggests a long barrel (min. 26") to utilize the powder capacity of the case.

 

[smoking-brass]

Build it ....shoot it....burn the barrel out...and have fun! What else is there to do!

 

[nastynatesfish]

Anybody have some start loads for 105s and 95gr bullets

 

[BD100]

nastynatesfish,

Use 240 Weatherby Magnum load data. It and the 6-06 case a darn near identical, sans the belt. The 6-06 does have just a skosh more case capacity though.

I've had my best results with MRP and RL-25, with an emphasis on the MRP. It's my go to powder with the 105's.

 

[nastynatesfish]

Got it all together. Had to open the barrel channel up. Need to do some more on it to give a good float job. Gonna strip it and put a finish on the reciever too.

 

[AckleymanII]

Barrel life will depend a lot on how long you throat. On my 244 AI and 243 AI's, I use very little freebore if any and stuff the bullet back in the case. You will be seating the 105's far below the shoulder neck junction, so why not stuff it down even further and get a lot more barrel life?

I shoot the 70g noslers at 4100 out of a 244 AI with zero freebore, really cuts down on the drop and leade required on moving coyotes. I get very long barrel life when using win 760, stick powders eat barrels.

 

[nastynatesfish]

Why would the bullet being in the case farther lead to more barrel life? I understand the buning if you have a lot of free ore. I was just looking to her the base even with the bottom of the neck. The 95gt vld I have are there close but they are .2 shorter to the ogive

 

[Changeling]

Why would the bullet being in the case farther lead to more barrel life? I understand the buning if you have a lot of free ore. I was just looking to her the base even with the bottom of the neck. The 95gt vld I have are there close but they are .2 shorter to the ogive

Hi nastyF , keep thinking the way "you" are, you will be fine.

That is one beautiful rifle!!!

 

[Frankr]

you guy's should let me know how accurate the 6/06 is and how long the barrel's will last with max loads. also at what velocity.
My neighbor who past away last year at 85 years old had one wicked bad shooting 6-284. very accurate and he said 800 rounds the barrel was done. a close friend of mine has had 2 6-284's and 2 6/06's and he told me 500 to 800 rounds. I said you mean after 500 round it just shot 3/4 to 1" instead of 1/2'' or under. he said no one of the 6/06 just quit shooting around 500 rounds, shot like 2 and 3 inch groups. he took it over to a gunsmith who bore scoped it and said there were no riflings in the first two inches of the barrel. so they swayed me against chambering one barrel I had for the 6-284.

Now I just annealed a few cases last weekend for a friend shooting a 6 dasher and he told me about a fellow he shoots with shooting a custom 240 weatherby mag. with a 8 twist and the 105 VLD's. he said it is unreal accurate like cutting bullet holes at 500 yards kind of accurate.he also said he is making his cases from 30/06 cases? I said what? he said yea some kind of die you use to put the belt on the case ect ect. I cant rember for sure but I think he said somewhere in the 3,400FPS range with the 105's. I said I have to see this. so I'm planning on getting in touch with the guy and find out. but we both think the barrel cant last long. But since he is close to me I will find out.

the only thing I can say is i built a 25/06 AI with a 28" palma barrel. made my brass from lapua 06 cases and with full throttle loads. 117's at 3,400 FPS and 1/2 to under 5 shot groups. at 300 rounds my throat never moved. I sold the rifle,got tired of banging that long barrel off of everything.