Lapua/Nosler 223 brass

[fa38]

I need another 100 pieces of .223 brass. I have Lapua but it seems everybody is out of it. How does the Nosler brass compare to the Lapua? Thanks

 

[Txhillbilly]

I sent you a PM.

 

[stacy]

I SHOOTING BOTH BRANDS NOW BUT THE LAPUA WILL HOLD ITS OWN NOSLER IS GOOD BUT IT SIMS IT TAKE PRESSURE WELL

 

[B23]

I need another 100 pieces of .223 brass. I have Lapua but it seems everybody is out of it. How does the Nosler brass compare to the Lapua? Thanks

Just sent you a PM with a link to a good reputable place that has Lapua 223 brass in stock for $59.11 per box 100.

 

[fa38]

Thank you both. I checked both recommendations and selected Mile High because the price was less but with shipping it turns out that they were within a buck or 2.

 

[PracticalTactical]

There's no doubt both Nosler and Lapua are great brass but I'll have to ask if it makes economic sense.

Suppose you want to by 400 rounds, that's roughly $400, but for $400 you could buy 4,000 once fired Lake City cases.

Now you are cringing at the stupidity of this comparison... but wait... read on.

Granted, these once fired cases are all over the map, when you get them, but now you think it through and work the problem...

Size all the cases, first with a regular sizing die, then again with a small base die. You have to do this because of the randomness of chambers the brass was fired in.

Do the full process on all of it, neck turn, remove primer crimps, deburr flash holes, length trim and anneal.

Now get out a sharpie and a scale and weigh every single case... and write the weight of each case on the case.

Once all 4,000 have been processed, sort them into lots of within 0.1 grains. This goes faster than you probably think.

You will have several lots of several hundred that are all within 0.1 grains. Put them in boxes of 100 and let them go though life in that group, never to be mixed with any other cases.

Once they are fired in your rifle and blown out to your chamber, you have something to work with that will rival any of the more expensive brands. The difference is that you probably have enough brass to last your whole life.

 

[AckleymanII]

Watch your neck dia with the Lapua if you have a custom match chamber.

 

[rmr]

There's no doubt both Nosler and Lapua are great brass but I'll have to ask if it makes economic sense.

Suppose you want to by 400 rounds, that's roughly $400, but for $400 you could buy 4,000 once fired Lake City cases.

it just depends on your personal situation. if you have the time to do this, that's great.
For me, my spare time is extremely limited and quite valuable. Even if Lapua brass is $1.50 each for .223, its money well spent to me. I can take it out of the box, prime / load and head to the range.

 

[PracticalTactical]

it just depends on your personal situation. if you have the time to do this, that's great.
For me, my spare time is extremely limited and quite valuable. Even if Lapua brass is $1.50 each for .223, its money well spent to me. I can take it out of the box, prime / load and head to the range.

Sure if a guy has loads of cash he can do whatever he wants.

For working guys its also a balance of how much they shoot and how much brass they lose.

I've never lost a piece of brass shooting F Class, but lose a significant amount in PRS.

 

[fa38]

Mile High says that my brass should be here tomorrow. Pretty darn quick.

 

[Hohn]

There's no doubt both Nosler and Lapua are great brass but I'll have to ask if it makes economic sense.

Suppose you want to by 400 rounds, that's roughly $400, but for $400 you could buy 4,000 once fired Lake City cases.

Now you are cringing at the stupidity of this comparison... but wait... read on.

Granted, these once fired cases are all over the map, when you get them, but now you think it through and work the problem...

Size all the cases, first with a regular sizing die, then again with a small base die. You have to do this because of the randomness of chambers the brass was fired in.

Do the full process on all of it, neck turn, remove primer crimps, deburr flash holes, length trim and anneal.

Now get out a sharpie and a scale and weigh every single case... and write the weight of each case on the case.

Once all 4,000 have been processed, sort them into lots of within 0.1 grains. This goes faster than you probably think.

You will have several lots of several hundred that are all within 0.1 grains. Put them in boxes of 100 and let them go though life in that group, never to be mixed with any other cases.

Once they are fired in your rifle and blown out to your chamber, you have something to work with that will rival any of the more expensive brands. The difference is that you probably have enough brass to last your whole life.

Or you could do what I did and buy brass so good that it has an SD of 0.2gr, so there’s no need to sort.

 

[PracticalTactical]

Or you could do what I did and buy brass so good that it has an SD of 0.2gr, so there’s no need to sort.

And what was your cost per piece?

Do you think that all brass the manufacturer produces is within 0.2 grains, or do you think they have a wider weight range during the manufacturing process but the manufacturer is sorting into lots of similar weight?

In actuality the brass is likely no more consistent during the production run than a more affordable brand, but the higher cost is to cover the sorting process.

If the brass is twice the price of another brand and you buy twice as much of the cheaper brand and sort the cheaper brand into 4 lots by weight and keep the middle two, how is that any different?

 

[Hohn]

And what was your cost per piece?

Do you think that all brass the manufacturer produces is within 0.2 grains, or do you think they have a wider weight range during the manufacturing process but the manufacturer is sorting into lots of similar weight?

In actuality the brass is likely no more consistent during the production run than a more affordable brand, but the higher cost is to cover the sorting process.

If the brass is twice the price of another brand and you buy twice as much of the cheaper brand and sort the cheaper brand into 4 lots by weight and keep the middle two, how is that any different?

I bought this brass as loaded ammo for $17/50. Geco 5.56 Swiss made Ruag. It’s basically RWS.

my sample size is 60+ pieces for measuring that SD of 0.22gr.

FWIW, the ES of 64 pieces of Geco was 1.38gr. Compare that to an ES of 3.08gr for only 30pcs of Lapua.

Twice the sample size and half the ES!

 

[CharlieNC]

When (if) it comes on the market again, new Lake City brass in bulk is excellent. Higher water capacity, and shoots as well for me in Ftr.