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Labradar

So I might be in the market for a chronograph and was wondering whats the skinny on the Labradar? Is it worth the extra money over say a standard type of chrony? They seem to be pretty pricey when compared to the conventional style.
 
I love mine. Its only downfall is it stops at 3900 FPS. I shoot a ton of fast movers so still have a Millineum for that duty but the LR has made my life so much easier.
 
Well I just checked out their website and damn, it kinda sucks that it stops at 3900 fps. I'm working up loads for my 220 Swift and not sure this is gonna work.
 
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Totally worth it ... haven't opened the case for my MagnetoSpeed since it arrived. Make sure you get the Recoil Trigger ... it's a "must have" accessory.

I agree 100%!!
 
I love mine but just tonight I was getting pretty erratic readings in the cold with it. Probably the battery going dead maybe?

mother than that they’re worth every penny.
 
Make sure you get the Recoil Trigger ... it's a "must have" accessory.


I got my inertia trigger when I bought my LabRadar. When tested it worked fine but I never found a need for it. The LabRadar works well without it.
Just my 2 cents.
 
The LabRadar is one of the best investments you can make.
Definitely, get the trigger. I have found times depending on the type of weapons being fired next to me, it can pick up those rifles using only the audible trigger. This eliminates that and also helps with smaller calibers and where the range does not easily allow you to place the LabRadar unit near the muzzle.
 
I've run Oehler 33 and 35p chronographs for about 35 years and have been happy with it.ive been around the orange Sponge Bob machines at our range. They seem to have just as many issues as the old screen style I use just in different areas.When they are down to $250 I "might" buy one.the phenomenon I am seeing with them is shooters will fixate on the data and pay less attention to their bag handling and range conditions.
 
I did some testing where we fired different rifles through a labradar, light curtain and magnetospeed at the same time, Then compared the results.

We found the Labradar was less accurate with 223 and more accurate with 308. It seems to have a hard time seeing smaller projectiles.

The problem with any type of chronograph system is the accuracy level of the devise is worse than the accuracy level we are trying to achieve. Its like using a yard stick to length sort your bullets.

Still its the best we can afford and better than nothing.

The best part about a Labradar is that it is not within the flight path of the bullet, so we dont accidentally shoot it. Since it is on the bench next to us we can reposition or turn it on and off from behind the bench.

Light curtain chronographs can be a PITA because we have to get out in front of our bench to set or adjust, so at a public range, the range has to go cold before you can tweak anything.

More than once on a public range, my old Chrony wasnt positioned quite right and I took the shot anyway, clipped one of the rods holding the light and busted the unit.

A couple problems I had with my Labradar at public ranges... One has an AR500 visor out front that messes up the ability to track bullets... Another range has us shooting through a small window, so the Labradar needs to be outside while we are inside.

The Labradar is best on private land with an open view of field.... it can have problems around heavy vegetation with a narrow clearing.
 
I've run Oehler 33 and 35p chronographs for about 35 years and have been happy with it.ive been around the orange Sponge Bob machines at our range. They seem to have just as many issues as the old screen style I use just in different areas.When they are down to $250 I "might" buy one.the phenomenon I am seeing with them is shooters will fixate on the data and pay less attention to their bag handling and range conditions.

I wish I had NEVER sold my Oehler 35.
 
I got my inertia trigger when I bought my LabRadar. When tested it worked fine but I never found a need for it. The LabRadar works well without it.

It depends on your firing point(s). Shooting from an indoor covered firing point off a bench, the inbuilt microphone triggers work just fine even with 223 fired from a 30-inch barrel and its relatively low sound/muzzle pressure signature. The benches on 'my' range are far also enough apart too to avoid my neighbours tripping my Labradar too with most rifles. However, have someone with a muzzle brake equipped rifle take up an adjacent bench and one of his or her shots in three will falsely trigger the machine. This also applies to some short-barrel conventional sporting rifles chambered for magnum cartridges or even a hot 243 Win load. (We have lots of very short-barrel, sub-20-inches, deer rifles in the UK, but they normally wear we call sound moderators, ie what people on the forum call 'suppressors'.) People with moderator / suppressor equipped rifles sometimes have problems too with the chronograph not being sound-triggered and where a recoil trigger is an obvious solution.

The only problem I've encountered was invisible degradation of the external power pack to Labradar input/output USB cable, which uses the older smaller type too on the the chronograph end, and the socket is none too well mounted as others have commented upon. I assumed it was the battery pack failing when still showing a part charge due to a combination of age and low temperatures, but a new pack and warmer weather didn't cure the problem. A post on this forum saying a cable fault is a common Labradar problem put me right. The cable presumably produced increased resistance and worked at full battery charge, but not after an hour or two of use. Enough power was then getting through to boot the machine up and make everything work until the shot turned the radar on and increased the power load when it tripped out and shut down.
 
We found the Labradar was less accurate with 223 and more accurate with 308. It seems to have a hard time seeing smaller projectiles.

I've had a few problems with 223, in particular one day late last year. It's an upland range (980 ft ASL) in a very wet area and subject to hill-fog, heavy rain, and cloud down on the range, sometimes bad enough to see shooting cancelled on safety grounds. Because of rapidly changing light conditions between seasons, but often from minute to minute, many optical chronographs ranged from unreliable to useless. First MagnetoSpeed then Labradar changed everything for us on this range, not to mention all the range down-time previously mentioned in people going forward to fiddle with optical device alignments.

This particular day had hill fog / heavy fine drizzle down on the range with waves of it being slowly blown across the bullet track from right to left. The humidity levels were so high, these waves are clearly visible as near vertical walls of water moving in front of you - sometimes called Scotch Mist as it's a prevalent condition on high Scottish Highlands moors and hills. At their worst, these 'water waves' seemed to degrade the Labradar's ability to track the little 223 bullet and I'd go from a read shot with all bars on the signal strength indicator showing dark to the next one giving a 'failed to track bullet' indication, then back to five-bar signal again.
 

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