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Labradar, what's your thoughts?

I see that Applied Ballistics LLC has moved to the Labradar and has it as one of its small list of recommended products. I seem to remember a 'Doc Beech' Applied Ballistics newsletter piece a while back saying that after extensive tests. the ballistics lab has moved from Oelher professional chronographs to the Labradar.

(If you get hold of Bryan Litz's 'Modern Advancement' books Vols 1 and 2 which have lots of fascinating range tests of different handloading / ammunition variables, some involving hundreds of rounds fired, maybe even 1,000 in some tests, you can see that a reliable, accurate chronograph is an essential tool. Volume 1 has a chronograph evaluation chapter, but minus the Labradar as it was written / published before that one was in series production.)
 
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Mine just arrived last night. Have not unpacked it yet, but will be doing that today or tomorrow. I did not buy their bench mount. Is the latest one better than the first. I have a table top photographic tripod, but with the unit mounted it will be top heavy. I am also going to try it with my Rim Fire BR guns first before buying the added acoustical trigger. Anyone had problems with a .22 RF and a tuner?

Thanks, Bob
 
I just use a 1/4" steel 12' x 12' plate to anchor mine down.
Even a old railroad tie plate would be good to use....
 
Several of us used one at the 600 yard line last Monday night at a match. We all shot off a Seb rest and had similar barrel lengths and calibers. The unit did not even have to be moved from one shooter to the next, and got readings on all shots that went down range. It is on my "must have" list.
 
rkittine said:
Mine just arrived last night. Have not unpacked it yet, but will be doing that today or tomorrow. I did not buy their bench mount. Is the latest one better than the first. I have a table top photographic tripod, but with the unit mounted it will be top heavy. I am also going to try it with my Rim Fire BR guns first before buying the added acoustical trigger. Anyone had problems with a .22 RF and a tuner?

Thanks, Bob
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Bob...I bought one of these and I could not be more satisfied: http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/new-style-base-for-lab-radar.3924363/#post-36966250
 
saunaking said:
Several of us used one at the 600 yard line last Monday night at a match. We all shot off a Seb rest and had similar barrel lengths and calibers. The unit did not even have to be moved from one shooter to the next, and got readings on all shots that went down range. It is on my "must have" list.
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Was that without even pointing/aiming the unit slightly toward each shooter? If so, that would be a deal breaker for me. I don't want a chronograph that picks up the shooters on either side of me...way too much trouble to decipher what's going on while you're trying to record velocity data.
 
I believe your problem was interference between the units. They are radio transmitters and if they are close enough they can interfere with each other. Separate them far enough that they don't both try to pick up the same bullet and you should be fine.
 
I went to great lengths to ensure that all settings were similar except for the frequency. Those were set differently.

Craig

SheepDog said:
I believe your problem was interference between the units. They are radio transmitters and if they are close enough they can interfere with each other. Separate them far enough that they don't both try to pick up the same bullet and you should be fine.
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Had a play with one today as one of my mates was brave enough to drop the cash on it. After the first couple of shots were not registering, we realised the unit was angled down towards the ground slightly. A slight tilt adjustment had it on song and it was very handy recording some data on my 280AI, and then following it up during fireforming with my 6BRAI. So yeah, it's not cheap, but take the time to set it up right and it works very well indeed.
 
rardoin said:
That is interesting CB. I have made shots with my Magnetospeed V3 attached/recording simultaneously with my Labradar and I never had more than 4-5fps variance. This was done less than a dozen times when the unit was less than '200 shots old'. I will test again next range session as Ron Regan said, "trust.....but verify".
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My major issue with any chrono at the muzzle is that it is at the muzzle only. At least with the Lab Radar I can get measurements down range as well. Nothing wrong with chrony's or Magnetspeeds, just different.
 
gstaylorg said:
Was that without even pointing/aiming the unit slightly toward each shooter? If so, that would be a deal breaker for me. I don't want a chronograph that picks up the shooters on either side of me...way too much trouble to decipher what's going on while you're trying to record velocity data.
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No, I shot the next relay after the guy mentioned in the post. The 3rd relay was on the same target as well. As mentioned, we were all shooting off Seb rests so the feet had the same locations for each relay. I did not see any shots picked up by the unit from shooters on either side of us. One battery pack lasted through all three shooters. I'm not sure how long they are supposed to last.
 
Although it isn't foolproof. I still get an occasional missed shot--usually operator error, it is the most convenient out there and the only one you can use to take data during a match. --Jerry
 
I love mine, only problem I've had is not triggering with suppressor on, I have to switch to Doppler mode, then it will pick up every time.
 
Only thing I don't like about mine is having to move from position to change series. Always within 3 to 5 fps of my magneto speed.
 
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