ITAR Registration -- Plan on Paying your Gunsmith more...

[Geronimo Jim]

The Democrats are coming after guns from all directions. Remember
Obama and the shotgun? At least they tried to hide their intentions.
A lot has changed. Full frontal assault. More will come. Think of all
those agencies with power over your life.

 

[noload]

The way I read it is you import or export Larry

2. Registration Required – Manufacturing: In response to questions from persons engaged in the business of gunsmithing, DDTC has found in specific cases that ITAR registration is required because the following activities meet the ordinary, contemporary, common meaning of “manufacturing” and, therefore, constitute “manufacturing” for ITAR purposes:

1. a) Use of any special tooling or equipment upgrading in order to improve the capability of assembled or repaired firearms;
   
   
2. b) Modifications to a firearm that change round capacity;
   
   
3. c) The production of firearm parts (including, but not limited to, barrels, stocks, cylinders, breech mechanisms, triggers, silencers, or suppressors);
   
   
4. d) The systemized production of ammunition, including the automated loading or reloading of ammunition;
   
   
5. e) The machining or cutting of firearms, e.g., threading of muzzles or muzzle brake installation requiring machining, that results in an enhanced capability;
   
   
6. f) Rechambering firearms through machining, cutting, or drilling;
   
   
7. g) Chambering, cutting, or threading barrel blanks; and
   
   
8. h) Blueprinting firearms by machining the barrel.

 

[CTK]

This sucks......

 

[6MMsteve]

I'll supply the pen. And the hammer. Be happy to swing the hammer, too.

This IS a problem for operations like mine, serving a small local market. I might chamber and thread 25 to 30 barrels (an activity that the guidance specifically states requires registration) in an average year. If I were to raise my price $100 per barrel, elasticity of demand would make it almost certain that I'd end up on the short end of the stick. Consumers would do without in this market (the 'vibrant' upstate NY economy) and in many others like it, so we all lose.

Make no mistake - the end game is the disarming of American citizens. Whether through incremental legislative restrictions or smothering regulations or both, that is the end game.

yes they are and it will happen on the barren landscape we once called the USofA. I think guns are just doomed for recreation. I hope I'm just crazy thinking that and you can call me crazy it's fine

 

[double g]

I guess all the guns we own for hunting and target shooting will someday be worthless, socialism at it's best. I can't believe everything has gone down hill so fast. I am afraid we are outnumbered and how long we can hold out is hard to say. We are already paying a lot more today than we did just 10 years ago. I think they will regulate and tax everything to the point most people will not be able to afford to shoot even if a person owns a firearm. They probably think we can't take them so they will make us pay to own our firearms. More taxation and regulations will finally achieve their goal. I intend to hold out to the last straw. DG

 

[smoooth]

Anyone for Totalitarianism? You would think more folks would disapprove of these Neo-Fascist Nazi tactics, but I guess history is history.
As a side note, I encourage everyone to google the word fascist and read the "dictionary" terms, especially the synonyms....

 

[Darrel Martin]

Makes me want to find a gunsmith who will box up his FFL with 2 pounds of feces and send it back to Washington. I would then pay in cash or bottles of whiskey or what ever he prefers as long as he will not send one cent of the payment to Washington ,DC , where the real criminals live.

 

[gme]

If you haven't already, please take a moment to contact your representative in DC, stand up for your gunsmith, he built you a damn nice rifle !
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

 

[Caleb85]

Just sent a email to Mr Graves, ( Missouri congressman). I grew up with his kids in 4-H and FFA, so I don't know if he will contact "lil ol me".

 

[Geno C]

If you haven't already, please take a moment to contact your representative in DC, stand up for your gunsmith, he built you a damn nice rifle !
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

I wrote my Rep. Glen Grothman. I actually talked with him in person for about an hour earlier this summer and he seemed to be a very down to earth guy and willing to listen. Sadly all my complaints to him are like preaching to the choir. I did bring this to his attention and asked that he look into what could be done to stop it from happening.

 

[savagedasher]

Don't it say 07 FFL ? Larry

 

[TRA]

Slow down guys and read what gme posted in post #47

Now READ the next paragraph as to who is required to register.

ITAR registration is required of persons who engage in the business of manufacturing defense articles. Persons who do not actually manufacture ITAR-controlled firearms (including by engaging in the activities described below, which DDTC has found in specific cases to constitute manufacturing) need not register with DDTC – even if they have an FFL from ATF. As indicated above, the requirements for obtaining FFLs under the GCA are separate and distinct from the requirement under the AECA and ITAR to register with DDTC.

The key words are "Defense Articles or Defense Services"

 

[Concha]

Disparate treatment. There aught to be a law.

 

[cncmill]

I am not a gunsmith but a Tool & Die Maker who likes to do my own stuff, stocks, chambering, scope rings, etc. So I would have to register just to chamber a barrel every one to two years? Guess I need to start saving.

 

[Grimstod]

This is disgusting. Vote for your gun rights this election. And by the way. A vote not cast for Trump is a vote cast for Hillary and more gun control ex orders like this.

 

[people]

The real question is will there be a fight or will the US just slip into 1984?

 

[SDDasher]

The real question is will there be a fight or will the US just slip into 1984?

Some think we already are there......Bernie, O'bama, Hillary, Donald the best we can produce as leaders? Pray my friends, pray.

 

[Bob L.]

Slow down guys and read what gme posted in post #47



Now READ the next paragraph as to who is required to register.



The key words are "Defense Articles or Defense Services"

You need to read further to understand what constitutes a "Defense Article."

22CFR Chapter 1, Subchapter M, Section 120.6 is titled "Defense Articles" and refers the reader to Section 121. 1 "The United States Munitions List." In this section, Category 1 "Firearms, Close Assault Weapons, and Combat Shotguns" includes in Subsection(a) "Non-automatic and semi-automatic firearms to caliber 50 inclusive (12.7mm)."

Subsection (g) includes "Barrels, cylinders, receivers (frames), or complete breech mechanisms for the articles in (a)..."

Subsection (h) includes "Components, parts, accessories, and attachments for the articles in (a)..."

This has been the case for years. ITAR was originally intended to control exports and imports. Now, I believe, we are seeing the unintended consequences.

 

[SDDasher]

Actually this regulation is interpreted further to include fluteing and threading barrels for muzzle brakes or suppressors. As others have said, another attempt by the left to further restrict your second amendment rights.

 

[spclark]

This has been the case for years. ITAR was originally intended to control exports and imports. Now, I believe, we are seeing the unintended consequences.

That's my take on this also.

ITAR came into existence in 1976. Since then it's been modified to expand its range of controls. This latest expansion, considered against the current backdrop of media and political focus on firearms, has to be intentional.

Against the backdrop of how HRC's transgressions while SoS has been handled, it's an insult to otherwise law-abiding citizens of the United States, potentially criminalized for prior acts with the stroke of the pen.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/201...tration-releases-latest-executive-gun-control