Is this 700 Bolt Wear Normal?

[dixieppc]

Well, just got off the phone with Remington. Looks like you guys were right about the sloppy grind job. I was told that was "normal" on this model.

It breaks my heart to see what has become of Remington. I have owned non Remington shooters through my life but Remington has always been my favorite. Probably because they lend well to being accurized with actions that are good platforms to start a bench build on. My newest 700 action is 20 years old so I am not familiar with Remington's quality and/or QC since the late 90's. However, from many discussions I have followed on this and other shooting sites from owners of late day Remingtons, it sure appears that Remington has fallen into disrepair.

But being fair, I guess one could say the same thing about everything else manufactured these days compared to what that same item's quality was two decades ago. It's nothing more than a sign of the times. The reason we have arrived at this sad state of manufacturing is because Joe Consumer has become complacent and acceptable of buying shit any more (present site members excluded). I truely doubt that any person buying the original OP's rifle that isn't inquisitive enough to be part of this site's forum would not have questioned that grade school grind job or guide rail slot machine job much less even being aware of it in the first place.

Regards,
Thomas

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I think another call is in order to let them know how bad their "3 rings of steel" is compromised and it really scares you and a lawyer buddy of yours. Looking at it from the front it is scary if they asked me

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Larry -
Post a picture of your 700 factory bolts, to show us how yours don't have machined guide rail.
Donovan

Savage never woulda put that extra step into an action- woulda cost $.03 more and made the bolt run smoother

 

[STS]

I'm pretty sure the mark in the OD of the lug is from verification of hardness, not from a guard screw or scope base screw. You will notice the other bolts pictured in this thread also have similar marks. I have a bunch of them and they all have similar depressions from the probe.

 

[savagedasher]

Savage never woulda put that extra step into an action- woulda cost $.03 more and made the bolt run smoother

Savage have it in their baffel forever. And it doubles as ther bolt stop and it is free Larry

 

[Dans40X]

Where to begin & end-
'62 thru '73 700 receiver serial number sequencing was 4,5,6&7 digit.
Of which the 4,5,6 digit bolts did not have an anti bind slot in RH bolt lug.
Of which the trigger groups had 2pc sear/safety bars & short firing pin shrouds that were left over parts from the predecessor 722 Short & 721 Long actions.
'74ish the A prefix serial numbered receiver came to market.
If you guessed B prefix lettering was next- hurray !
C prefix receivers are mid/late 80's
D prefix receivers were mid 90's & ISS/J Lock firing pin era.
D,E,F,G bolt bodies, do not have the bolt lock cut,as the step was ommited.
E prefix receivers of which some,not all, were roll stamped referenced as "embellished".
F&G prefix receivers were '06 vintage & fit w/ X Mark trigger groups.

ALL .532" face OEM Rem bolts have riveted extractors.
.378" &.473" snap in extractors came to be in mid 90's D prefix to current RR prefix lettered CNC'd receivers manufactured in AL.

The impression pictured in the center of the bolt lug is a witness mark to confirm the bolt cams into battery witnessed thru the front action screw hole during assembly.

OP,
Your overground rivet/bolt nose is fine to shoot 'till hell freezes over.
It's still stronger than those choosing a SAKO extractor modification that sacrifices the 3 rings of steel.

There is NO other wear/galling of your bolt lugs,it is normal --- the bluing is worn off...that's it.

 

[DaveTooley]

Where to begin & end-
'62 thru '73 700 receiver serial number sequencing was 4,5,6&7 digit.
Of which the 4,5,6 digit bolts did not have an anti bind slot in RH bolt lug.
Of which the trigger groups had 2pc sear/safety bars & short firing pin shrouds that were left over parts from the predecessor 722 Short & 721 Long actions.
'74ish the A prefix serial numbered receiver came to market.
If you guessed B prefix lettering was next- hurray !
C prefix receivers are mid/late 80's
D prefix receivers were mid 90's & ISS/J Lock firing pin era.
D,E,F,G bolt bodies, do not have the bolt lock cut,as the step was ommited.
E prefix receivers of which some,not all, were roll stamped referenced as "embellished".
F&G prefix receivers were '06 vintage & fit w/ X Mark trigger groups.

ALL .532" face OEM Rem bolts have riveted extractors.
.378" &.473" snap in extractors came to be in mid 90's D prefix to current RR prefix lettered CNC'd receivers manufactured in AL.

The impression pictured in the center of the bolt lug is a witness mark to confirm the bolt cams into battery witnessed thru the front action screw hole during assembly.

OP,
Your overground rivet/bolt nose is fine to shoot 'till hell freezes over.
It's still stronger than those choosing a SAKO extractor modification that sacrifices the 3 rings of steel.

There is NO other wear/galling of your bolt lugs,it is normal --- the bluing is worn off...that's it.

Can I get an Amen?

 

[Jesswil61]

Can I get an Amen?

Amen Brother Dave!

 

[BoydAllen]

I agree that it is not wear but a sloppy grinding job. Did you buy this rifle new? If you did, I think that you need to be talking to Remington. If it came from a private party the damage probably was done after it left the factory. In any case the problem is not functional, but esthetic.

 

[JRS]

 

[swd]

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You mean 2 years. Flyin by

 

[carlsbad]

Every time one of these is posted, perhaps every 2 years, we go on a multipage remington bashing binge.

it is overzealous rivet grinding.

It is cosmetic only.

The important part of your bolt, the face, looks pretty good. I'm guessing you're shooting mild loads. --Jerry

 

[Shrek]

Remington bashing is easy and well deserved. Absolutely crap quality control. I’ve been the victim myself. My 700 will be my first project whenever I’m able to get a shop built. It’s a terrible shame what has happened to Remington.

 

[carlsbad]

Remington makes a million actions. Given the relatively small population of custom actions and the problems I've seen with them, it is not clear to me which one would get a better score in a QA audit. People love to bash Rem, but I won't post the problems I've seen with customs as that never works out well for anyone.

--Jerry