You get 20 average hunter guys to show up. Three of win first, second, and third place.
Next month three guys show up. Guess which three.
Next month three guys show up. Guess which three.
Harris??? Who uses that garbage anymore?Not to go off topic, but I've wanted FTR to get some stricter rules... 26 inch barrel, harris bipod, squeeze bag....
Bring a gun with some blood stains !!I think a lot of people would end up building ‘safe queen’ hunting rifles purposed only for the competition and then it would be no different than the BR relays shot at the same match.
Should have to prove the rifle has taken big game in the field with pics and witnesses or its not a real hunting rifle and is not allowed in the competition
Maybe a three shot format would be appropriate. Also I would suggest no scoring just group only, because the short sighter period of minimum shots ~ maybe 3 shots sighter and 3 for record.My only complaint bringing my 30-28 or 6.5x300wsm is barrel heat with 5 round strings 3 shots are hot enough and I dont want to start spending 750-800 getting new barrels spun on them.
Now I do have a 6 creed I would entertain possible going to D.C. once or twice a year just if nothing else to hang out and learn something.
No, no no, just the opposite. This is about hunting rifles.Also I would suggest no scoring just group only,
I disagree , shooting sighters to get centered up for a good score takes extra shots that heat up the barrel and ruin the record group. Picture 3 shots at 1000 yards inside of 2inches’ with a sporting rifle..who cares what the score is.No, no no, just the opposite. This is about hunting rifles.
Group = precision = ?
Score = accuracy = hunting.
Shooting a 3" group in the guts vs a 6" group in the boiler room.
Group size would be used for tie breaking scores...
Hunting accuracy is not about the arrow, it is primarily about the Indian.
I agree with 3 shot groups. But thinking in hunting terms, SCORE would be far more important than group size. Especially score closest to center on a cold bore shot,Maybe a three shot format would be appropriate. Also I would suggest no scoring just group only, because the short sighter period of minimum shots ~ maybe 3 shots sighter and 3 for record.
The point I’m making is that getting centered up in 1000 yard br takes several shots adjusting to the wind during the sighter period, a sport barrel will be too hot to shoot decent groups.I agree with 3 shot groups. But thinking in hunting terms, SCORE would be far more important than group size. Especially score closest to center on a cold bore shot,
Groups are very important for consistency, but the accuracy of hitting your mark matters a lot more in hunting. You can have a hunting rifle shooting really small groups at any distance, but if you’re shot is off by a foot, you miss or have a wounded animal, which is complete garbage for the purpose of hunting.
Jimjust really rewarding to shoot tiny groups with a hunting rifle thats not designed to do that as its primary goal
Cold bore consistency will vary with every barrel and/or load tuning recipe. Has nothing to do with the rifle manufacturer. Could grab multiple brand new Sauer 200 rifles off the store shelf and they can all have different cold bore characteristicsIf you want your cold bore shot to hit where your warm bore shots hit, then buy a classic Sauer or Sako. My Sauer 200 shot same spot stone cold or smoking hot. And it shot max .5moa with tailored handloads.