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Ingenuity Precision New Trickler

padom said:
That's your choice I guess if you do or do not want a stand... its the same IP trickler... but because windscreens and dumper/brackets aren't ready yet, if you don't get the trickler with stand you won't be able to use it until the windscreen, dumper/bracket ship
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And when the bracket ships, you just bolt it on? as well as the motor?
 
Plato said:
87% of us already have Adam's v2/v3/v4 and Paul's work of art, the IP trickler, so unsure why people are quoting me telling me we can get another one with some electronics to tide us over while we wait on the tacky shield since mid-2023. lol

So you're saying we have waited >18 months for a 3D printed shield that has changed since the first iteration? Again, the first shield design was sex, but it would have cost a little money, so Paul decided his "exacting standards" necessitated printing a tacky one that he designed in a day after people on the Hide complained a year and a half ago. Your stories aren't making any sense, guys. :)

I love the IP and gladly waited for the bulk dropper setup, still waiting without complaint, just reacting to all the apologists who think it's "exacting standards" and every other shop that can't produce things to spec for Paul, forcing him to buy a bunch of machines (that don't work, apparently) and that it's not a play to manufacture it all himself to maximize profits.

Again, I get it....would have done the same damn thing with more than $1.75 million in preorders. Hell, I'd blow smoke until I got the third CNC machine up and running, also...just reacting to the fake news and misinformation, that's all. No hate. lol

#NothingButLove.

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My guess is the delay was due to production of the in-house parts being much more intensive than calculated to the point another CNC Machine was needed. Every time I emailed Paul for an update he was pretty forthright and gave me realistic updates (latest one Feb/March). No smoke blowing. On the parts he's waiting on, who knows how long ago he ordered them and what the lead time was. Or if he ordered them later in the process because it was faster to outsource.

In his defense, he did not take a penny from anyone and people can cancel their order anytime. I offered to pay in advance with no expectation of shipping date and he would not take my money.

I'm with you on the trickler and electronics. I opted to get the scale now since I needed a new one and his price on the Entris is fantastic but not worth paying for the trickler and electronics. I want a whole system sent to me.

The wait has been very frustrating but thats on me to be frustrated. I remember when I first ordered - someone I know here that is very familiar with Paul and the manufacturing process told me dont expect to get it till a year after he says it will be available. Lol. It wasnt a dig at Paul at all. He just knew that it would be much harder to execute than Paul anticipated.

Anyways my .02 worth .01 and #nothingbutlove here as well.
 
Sebrock said:
My guess is the delay was due to production of the in-house parts being much more intensive than calculated to the point another CNC Machine was needed. Every time I emailed Paul for an update he was pretty forthright and gave me realistic updates (latest one Feb/March). No smoke blowing. On the parts he's waiting on, who knows how long ago he ordered them and what the lead time was. Or if he ordered them later in the process because it was faster to outsource.

In his defense, he did not take a penny from anyone and people can cancel their order anytime. I offered to pay in advance with no expectation of shipping date and he would not take my money.

I'm with you on the trickler and electronics. I opted to get the scale now since I needed a new one and his price on the Entris is fantastic but not worth paying for the trickler and electronics. I want a whole system sent to me.

The wait has been very frustrating but thats on me to be frustrated. I remember when I first ordered - someone I know here that is very familiar with Paul and the manufacturing process told me dont expect to get it till a year after he says it will be available. Lol. It wasnt a dig at Paul at all. He just knew that it would be much harder to execute than Paul anticipated.

Anyways my .02 worth .01 and #nothingbutlove here as well.
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Your experience is different than mine!!! I'm not necessarily complaining and certainly not on a rant, but I have asked twice. My order was in early May '24 and when the notes came out about maybe a fall and then a possible November shipping start I was excited like most. When the delays started to be posted and no info leaked out for a while in late Dec I emailed the website with a simple note asking if there were any news on possible ship dates and if they had made any shipments of the product to any customers. I received a note of response that it would be 2025 before my invoice # would be shipped likely 2nd quarter 2025. So I waited a day or two and resent the same email chain asking if there had been any shipments made of the units (since they failed to answer the question on the first note)- response returned was no, shipping will begin possibly in 1st quarter 2025. No explanation or detail given, so while I did not expect any great length response they could have done a much better job of customer service. If the other units did not depend so much on the internet and phone interface I would just move on with a V4 or Supertrickler. I have a feeling their customer service is going to be an issue long after the release of the product. They appear to be an engineering company struggling with product release with little or no focus on long term customer service (hope I am wrong and way off base).
I am keeping mine on order and hoping they get it straightened out with smooth product flow in 2025. I know most of us have been involved in new product release and all the pitfalls and unforeseen problems that happen along the way. This looks to be a great product by a great team that is having growing pains right now, lets hope they get all three areas of their current Tri-Balance (Production/Inventory, Customer Service, Accounts Payable/Receiving) figured out and running smoothly!!!!
Stan
 
spike-55 said:
Your experience is different than mine!!! I'm not necessarily complaining and certainly not on a rant, but I have asked twice. My order was in early May '24 and when the notes came out about maybe a fall and then a possible November shipping start I was excited like most. When the delays started to be posted and no info leaked out for a while in late Dec I emailed the website with a simple note asking if there were any news on possible ship dates and if they had made any shipments of the product to any customers. I received a note of response that it would be 2025 before my invoice # would be shipped likely 2nd quarter 2025. So I waited a day or two and resent the same email chain asking if there had been any shipments made of the units (since they failed to answer the question on the first note)- response returned was no, shipping will begin possibly in 1st quarter 2025. No explanation or detail given, so while I did not expect any great length response they could have done a much better job of customer service. If the other units did not depend so much on the internet and phone interface I would just move on with a V4 or Supertrickler. I have a feeling their customer service is going to be an issue long after the release of the product. They appear to be an engineering company struggling with product release with little or no focus on long term customer service (hope I am wrong and way off base).
I am keeping mine on order and hoping they get it straightened out with smooth product flow in 2025. I know most of us have been involved in new product release and all the pitfalls and unforeseen problems that happen along the way. This looks to be a great product by a great team that is having growing pains right now, lets hope they get all three areas of their current Tri-Balance (Production/Inventory, Customer Service, Accounts Payable/Receiving) figured out and running smoothly!!!!
Stan
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I guess on the CS side - I'm sure it's engineered well enough that there should be very little issues, like the V3/V4. I get it though - customers like handholding and information while waiting - personally I would be posting status updates on the site but thats me. He is accessible by phone and less brief there than on his emails. On the ST - I was on the last software version development group and that thing is like flying a plane and you really need to get into the weeds of the program to maximize - which is great and terrible. If this is delayed beyond Q1 then will likely buy a V4 temporarily since I will have the Sartorious scale. I'm in the first 300-400 orders and I really hope it's February, March. Sounds like he is just waiting on parts. Will ping him at the end of the month and see what it's looking like and repost here.
 
Sebrock said:
I guess on the CS side - I'm sure it's engineered well enough that there should be very little issues, like the V3/V4. I get it though - customers like handholding and information while waiting - personally I would be posting status updates on the site but thats me. He is accessible by phone and less brief there than on his emails. On the ST - I was on the last software version development group and that thing is like flying a plane and you really need to get into the weeds of the program to maximize - which is great and terrible. If this is delayed beyond Q1 then will likely buy a V4 temporarily since I will have the Sartorious scale. I'm in the first 300-400 orders and I really hope it's February, March. Sounds like he is just waiting on parts. Will ping him at the end of the month and see what it's looking like and repost here.
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Yes I agree with everything you’ve posted!!! I am in the same camp as you. I am really wanting this to happen and succeed but I don’t have to have this unit. I just “want” it right now, but that’s starting to fade like the pretty girl in high school- fleeting fancy !!!!!
Stan
 
are they shipping yet or are you one of the beta testers ?

NVM that doesn't look like the latest IP dropper.....right ?
 
R L U said:
Just curious what cost was for control unit and cables? I have a second scale and his trickler would like to use like your hybrid set up.
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I don’t remember exactly. I have the trickle, just want his thrower and controller, whatever else to complete the setup. I thought around 900?
 
New update (new to me; apologies if already reported):

"The current estimate for the first preorders that started 12-19-23 through about the end of 02-2024 should start going out in May. If you preordered after the end of February 2024 then you will be in the second batch of production scheduled for about July. "
 
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