IMR Enduron Powders Being Discontinued

[urbanrifleman]

I have both in hand. They look nothing alike!

Yah we established they are not the same. Still I would say that as 4064 would be an excellent Varget replacement.

 

[sparker]

It is for 175s and up. You can’t get enough AA4064in a case for Palma loads.

 

[Larry Koch]

How did we survive in the 70's and 80's with so few choices of powders, now we have way too many.
Its crazy.

 

[Fuj]

How did we survive in the 70's and 80's with so few choices of powders, now we have way too many.
Its crazy.

Back in those day's you just went over to your neighbors and
borrowed a cup of Dupont IMR 4064. It was the Franks hot sauce
of the day....."We put that sh_t in everthing" !!

 

[sparker]

Back in those day's you just went over to your neighbors and
borrowed a cup of Dupont IMR 4064. It was the Franks hot sauce
of the day....."We put that sh_t in everthing" !!

The powder I want resurrected is IMR 4320.
Varget burn rate with the density of a ball powder. Incredibly accurate.

 

[CJ6]

I use 45 grs. of 4320 in the 270 with 150 NBTs. That load make that Winchester the most accurate pure factory rifle I have.

 

[SShooterZ]

I sure hope that they don’t come out and say the Enduron powders are dangerous to store. I got a whole bunch of the 4451, loaded and in jugs.

I had 10 pounds of IMR 4007SSC I had to dump due to their recall. They made right by me with payment but that didn't help fill the 10 pounds of powder I just lost.

 

[davidjoe]

I had 10 pounds of IMR 4007SSC I had to dump due to their recall. They made right by me with payment but that didn't help fill the 10 pounds of powder I just lost.

I’m curious how they know if a guy really gets rid of the powder, or not…

 

[SShooterZ]

I’m curious how they know if a guy really gets rid of the powder, or not…

I had to fill out a form saying I wasn't going to use it basically. More of a CYA for them. I will say, when I opened my 8 pound jug, there was a yellow stained residue on the seal that affixes to the mouth of the jug and the smell was not normal. You could tell something not good was going on.

 

[Loudenboomer]

It's not that we don't have enough powder choices. It's the availability of the powder you choose!
With H4831 tough to get I was getting good results with IMR4955 as a substitute.

 

[dhagerty40]

Received this from a reliable supplier.

"Hodgdon has discontinued their Enduron Line of Powders.
These include 4166, 4451, 4955, 7977 and 8133. And, then for a one - two punch Hodgdon raised powder prices mainly the remaining IMR branded Powders this ranges 10-16 percent. One has to remember that some IMR Powder is made in Australia and most is made in Canada."

after looking at the recent prices for IMR powders, I will stay with VHT powders as they are cheaper now!

 

[PRR1957]

Urbanrifleman do you know what the AA is for IMR 4166?

Here is 2019 burn rate chart from Hodgdon, I believe. Found it on the Internet. It does give with Hodgdon’s annual load data magazine.

Anyway. IMR 4166 is number 100.

 

[PRR1957]

Hodgdon is shuttering their black powder mill in Florida. Good luck.

I believe someone bought that manufacturing facility. If it’s the same facility, it was shut down from a explosion in the BP milling room. This last spring I spoke to someone on a phone call who is the firearms support industry about this. Can’t remember who it was.

 

[msilbernagel]

The powder I want resurrected is IMR 4320.
Varget burn rate with the density of a ball powder. Incredibly accurate.

I still have a 1 1/2 cans of IMR-4320 from Dad's reloading bench!

 

[FNSafari]

I believe someone bought that manufacturing facility. If it’s the same facility, it was shut down from a explosion in the BP milling room. This last spring I spoke to someone on a phone call who is the firearms support industry about this. Can’t remember who it was.

Good news if true.

 

[308_PorkChop]

I guess I'm the only one who will miss the 7977... LoL?

 

[Rat Rifle]

It doesn’t help Me to have powder choices that I can’t get. I suspect this trend will continue

 

[Deadeyepete]

This is crap news. Imr4451 did alright for me. I bought 5# imr8133, but never got to it. Now I'll probably sell it to someone who needs it more than me.
This really stinks.

Would be interested in talking to you about that 8133 you have. Thanks!

 

[Kracken McGraw]

Just saw on Benchrest Central that Hodgdon may be bringing the Enduron line back.

 

[No manches"]

^ sure hope this comes true"