I'm old, yes, but what do they teach people these days?

[ebb]

I loved one my brother told me. Old guy is a landowners meeting and being told that he must clean his almost new plastic fence as it has green mold all over it. Someone says just spray bleach on it, he goes nuts screaming bleach will ruin his fence. My brother asks if bleach doesn't come in plastic bottles?

 

[jonbearman]

Try doing math the common core way and you will end up in a mental institution. The guys that came up with common crap said they did it just to make money, it is illogical to teach this garbage. After you try it you will put yourself in a mental institution just for a rest. The teachers should band together nation wide and reject this method of math and the way they have to teach revisionist history.

 

[bluealtered]

It's very simple really, in order to teach the younger generation something, the generation doing the teaching must have had it taught to them as well. You can learn knowledge by being taught by someone else or by learning from doing it yourself and after the pain stops you know not to do it again. (if you live)
Many of the people rioting today were taught that they didn't have to do anything they didn't want to, because the police will just sit there and take it, this of course isn't or at least shouldn't be true, Portland Oregon is the perfect example of this at the moment. You see many generations now in liberal city's have been taught that it's Ok to do what you want anytime you want without anyone to correct you, because this is of course the "progressive" thing to do.
Liberal progressive city's like Portland and all the rest in our nation have been doing this for many generations now and the results are on the news every day or night with all the crime the TV stations can show you. We on the east side of the state of Oregon watch Portland news as well, I timed the news of all the crimes happening in Portland one evening and it went on for a full hour with the exception of the weather.

As i step down off my soapbox, i want our members on the west side of the state to know these statements aren't directed at you, however how you vote in a few months will determine how you can raise your family's in the future and the future of our state.

 

[msinc]

I visited my older sister a few years back. They have a nice pool and so I just needed a cigar and some Bushmill's to relax and enjoy doing nothing. My niece, who is in her 30's and still living at home {about to tell you why...} offered to show me the way to the cigar/liquor store. We were driving along and she would hold up her left hand vertical, index finger and thumb at a 90 degree angle {to make the shape of an L} and say "left" pointing the turn out. When we had to make a right she would take her right hand and pretend to write something, point to the right and say "turn right". At first I didn't really pay any attention, but she did it like three times...Me being about as dumb asked, "what are you doing??" She explained it was her "method" to remember right from left!!!
A little ways later she saw a deer warning sign and said, "those stupid signs really pi$$ me off!!!" I asked why and her response was, "Just because they make a deer crossing there doesn't mean the deer are going to use it." Now I have heard that joke before, but this girl was serious. She does have a few things going for her, she is drop dead gorgeous if you know what I mean.
It runs in the family, nephew of another sister was handed a pile of targets to staple up for shooting later that day. Went to my range and we shot up the target. I said, "what did you do with the rest of them??" He said, {honest to god, you cant make this up!!} "they are stapled up there too, all I gotta do is peel that first one off and we can keep shooting!!"

 

[Steve morgan]

I'm just in one of those WTF moods I guess but I'm thinking of a conversation earlier this week with another shooter at the range about cleaning range pick-up brass:

“Put them in water? Aren't they metal?”
Yes, they're brass. Water won't hurt them.
“Won't they rust?”
No, brass doesn't rust.
“You just said they were metal!”

I was in sportsmen warehouse yesterday ,I was looking at shotgun target loads, another guy was looking also he ask me what the 7.5 was in the load info. WTF he is buying ammo and doesn't know what shot size is.

 

[AccelR8]

She explained it was her "method" to remember right from left!!!

Honestly sometimes I hesitate for a split second with right and left. But port and starboard always works!

 

[markT]

Do you know what 7.5 means?
Bet he doesn’t know what 12 ga means?

 

[jds holler]

I'd prolly tell that kid to go down to the hardware store and get a brass magnet to pick those cases up. Makes it a lot quicker and easier. jd

 

[SPQR70AD]

Unfortunately, in today's world the parents teach their children very little compared to what we were taught back in the old days. The parents are too busy with careers and keeping up with their kids multiple activities that they have spoiled rotten by giving them everything without teaching them what it takes to have things, ie making them do chores for an allowance. It is really a sad state. Common sense is something they don't teach in school.

guys say that about giving kids everything but then you read of guys building a 5K rifle for a 12 year old

 

[AccelR8]

I'd prolly tell that kid to go down to the hardware store and get a brass magnet to pick those cases up. Makes it a lot quicker and easier. jd

One time I saw a technician walk up to an old, grizzled tech at his tool box and ask "Hey can I borrow that aluminum magnet?" It was all I could do turn turn and walk away.

 

[mensajd]

Try doing math the common core way and you will end up in a mental institution. The guys that came up with common crap said they did it just to make money, it is illogical to teach this garbage. After you try it you will put yourself in a mental institution just for a rest. The teachers should band together nation wide and reject this method of math and the way they have to teach revisionist history.

Learning different algorithms for solving arithmatical problems is not inherently wrong, as these problems can be solved in a variety of ways. But to switch the math curriculum to a new method without evidence that the method is pedagogically superior is teaching malpractice. Quick google check shows that common core math hurt SAT scores. Wow, thank you education PhDs for hurting American competitiveness. Mathematically precocious children aren't harmed by new math or common core math, but the typical student is.

 

[AccelR8]

I had just a bit of experience with common core math and honestly it kind of made sense to me. I thought, I can see what they're trying to do here, draw upon a more intuitive approach rather than a, um, systematic rules-based approach? But I also thought, the average person is probably not inclined toward mathematics therefore the older methods might be better.

 

[Ken]

I was raised on a farm in the 50s-60s.
Chores,work, conservative Christian parents. I am the most blessed of all men.

 

[olddav]

I loved one my brother told me. Old guy is a landowners meeting and being told that he must clean his almost new plastic fence as it has green mold all over it. Someone says just spray bleach on it, he goes nuts screaming bleach will ruin his fence. My brother asks if bleach doesn't come in plastic bottles?

There is a difference between vinyl and plastic bottles. Bleach will damage vinyl fences, siding and the vinyl coating on coil trim. Applying bleach to vinyl will cause it to fail prematurely. People still spray bleach on vinyl siding because it cleans it quickly and easily. I guess they don’t care about the damage.

 

[Ringostar]

I grew up in farm country, but not on a farm. If we wanted money for things, we went and worked for local farmers. Picking up rocks in the spring, baling hay, pulling weeds in the cabbage field. Anything that they needed help with, and were willing to pay a kid to do. There was never allowance at home. You worked, if you wanted to eat. We had a problem with septic system one year. The college educated county inspector came out and look things over. He said some things that didn’t make sense, and my dad called him on it. So he got pissy, and told my dad that he had to pay for a backhoe to come in and dig a couple test holes. My dad Told him that he wasn’t paying for a backhoe, when he had a shovel and a teenage son. Then looked at me! Yup, I had to dig two 6’ deep holes in the yard. I didn’t complain either, I just did what I was told. That sure ain’t going to happen with kids today.

 

[Evan]

I loved one my brother told me. Old guy is a landowners meeting and being told that he must clean his almost new plastic fence as it has green mold all over it. Someone says just spray bleach on it, he goes nuts screaming bleach will ruin his fence. My brother asks if bleach doesn't come in plastic bottles?

This is an excellent mirror of the original post. Thinking all plastic is the same is the exact same situation as the poor guy who misunderstood his science teacher when he was told all metals can oxidize.

"Common sense" is entirely dependent on a person's knowledge and experience. It has nothing to do with sense, and insulting someone's "lack of common sense" is really just an ugly way of insulting a gap in their knowledge and experience.

We all have gaps. I'm sure a professional chef would say that I had an appalling lack of "common sense." All he would actually be saying is that I've never been to culinary school and I use a knife with all the subtlety of a gorilla when trying to dice onions. I rarely use the stovetop on anything but "keep it warm" or "give me all the heat you've got" and my wife says this is because I have no "common sense" but I say why take 5 minutes to scramble some eggs when I can get it done in 30 seconds with some nice browning for flavor.

 

[JohnKielly]

Unfortunately, in today's world the parents teach their children very little compared to what we were taught back in the old days. The parents are too busy with careers and keeping up with their kids multiple activities that they have spoiled rotten by giving them everything without teaching them what it takes to have things, ie making them do chores for an allowance. It is really a sad state. Common sense is something they don't teach in school.

It' would be real bad if it turned out that we were the ones who taught those parents, but that wouldn't be th case, would it?

 

[dolek]

This is an excellent mirror of the original post. Thinking all plastic is the same is the exact same situation as the poor guy who misunderstood his science teacher when he was told all metals can oxidize.

"Common sense" is entirely dependent on a person's knowledge and experience. It has nothing to do with sense, and insulting someone's "lack of common sense" is really just an ugly way of insulting a gap in their knowledge and experience.

We all have gaps. I'm sure a professional chef would say that I had an appalling lack of "common sense." All he would actually be saying is that I've never been to culinary school and I use a knife with all the subtlety of a gorilla when trying to dice onions. I rarely use the stovetop on anything but "keep it warm" or "give me all the heat you've got" and my wife says this is because I have no "common sense" but I say why take 5 minutes to scramble some eggs when I can get it done in 30 seconds with some nice browning for flavor.

Great post, reminds me of when I was showing my Son something that he was just not getting...I said "it's just common sense", he replied...yes,it's common sense if you already know it.

 

[markT]

This is an excellent mirror of the original post. Thinking all plastic is the same is the exact same situation as the poor guy who misunderstood his science teacher when he was told all metals can oxidize.

"Common sense" is entirely dependent on a person's knowledge and experience. It has nothing to do with sense, and insulting someone's "lack of common sense" is really just an ugly way of insulting a gap in their knowledge and experience.

We all have gaps. I'm sure a professional chef would say that I had an appalling lack of "common sense." All he would actually be saying is that I've never been to culinary school and I use a knife with all the subtlety of a gorilla when trying to dice onions. I rarely use the stovetop on anything but "keep it warm" or "give me all the heat you've got" and my wife says this is because I have no "common sense" but I say why take 5 minutes to scramble some eggs when I can get it done in 30 seconds with some nice browning for flavor.

Is it common sense not to point a firearm at something you don't intend to shoot?
Is it common sense to comply to a police officers demands?
Or is the above "entirely dependent on a persons knowledge and experience?" I just asking for a friend..

 

[JSH]

All of the safety warnings,labeling and guards have flooded the country with idiots. Take all that away and in a few years it will clean its self up.

Just a while back a guy I work with that is 60 grabbed a hot plate in the lab with his right hand, dropped it on the floor. Took the glove off of his left hand, proceeded to pick it up and burnt his left hand.
He looked at me and said “that’s hot”. I responded your pretty sharp, only took you twice to figure that out AND that’s why the call it a hot plate!

Forward two days later he was PO’d at me. He said I called him an idiot when I said it only took him twice to figure out it was hot.

I honestly wonder how some folks made it as far in life as they have.