I’m done with Alliant

[46and2]

Just stopped tonight to double check
Wayne

That's just cross eyed ignorant!

 

[CJ6]

I way under priced the RL-15 I have for sale.

 

[358WCF]

I way under priced the RL-15 I have for sale.

You should charge even more for it. It's older. It has more experience.

 

[sw282]

Reluctantly, I have realized that the price of Powder, as well as everything else,!has been skyrocketing. Why though, does it seem that Alliant powders are so much more than everyone else’s? Is it greed for profit? I now find myself switching to Vitahvouri powders, which I would have never foreseen. They went from being the most expensive, to the cheapest! Lol. Honestly, in my 40 years of reloading, I have never used these powders, but I have always heard wonderful things about them, so I must say I am looking forward to using them and working up new loads. Oh well, I guess in life we must pivot from time to time. I guess it keeps things interesting? (Glass half full way of thinking).

Friends-shooters: There's a WAR going on in several parts of this Earth. Wars take LOTS of powder.
l'm surprised to see any powder ANYWHERE for sale

 

[sw282]

Go back in my Time Machine.
DuPont 4831 in a Tin Can $7.45 a Pound.
McDonald's $.15 Cheese Burger
The $.05 Cigar
Ethyl Gas $.25 a gal.
LSMFT $.25 a pack.

Joe said we are doing fine.

Weighed 135 pounds. Making $2.12 hr @ Chas Navy Yard. $50 rent. $60 month pmt on a new 66 Nova SS
No joe then. Had LBJ drowning us in a real KILLING war

 

[jrb572]

They keep raising prices because people keep paying them. Think a few years back it was on the shelf all the time. Now you sometimes are lucky to see any. I am talking about before Obama mostly but it also was easy to find when Trump was in.

There is no stopping the price gouging at the moment. Because if you don’t buy it the next guy or the next after him will be all over it.

 

[Firearmsunlimited]

Just checked with the largest reloading supplier in Phoenix and found Alliant @ $67.50 # and Vihtivouri @ $39.52 #. Almost $28.00 a pount difference. What the hell? Vista Outdoors owns Alliant Powder. As far as ammo production, Vista Outdoors also owns Remington ammo, Federal, CCI, Estate Cartridge, Speer, and Hevi-shot. Pure greed on Vista's part.

 

[sw282]

An Official Journal Of The NRA | Czechoslovak Group Makes Bid For Federal, CCI, Hevi-Shot, Remington Ammo & Speer

Vista Outdoor announced a definitive agreement to sell its Sporting Products business to Czechoslovak Group (CSG) on Oct. 1. The all-cash transaction includes ownership transfer of some of the industry’s biggest names in ammunition, including Federal, CCI, Remington Ammo, Speer and Hevi-Shot.

www.americanrifleman.org

 

[urbanrifleman]

An Official Journal Of The NRA | Czechoslovak Group Makes Bid For Federal, CCI, Hevi-Shot, Remington Ammo & Speer

Vista Outdoor announced a definitive agreement to sell its Sporting Products business to Czechoslovak Group (CSG) on Oct. 1. The all-cash transaction includes ownership transfer of some of the industry’s biggest names in ammunition, including Federal, CCI, Remington Ammo, Speer and Hevi-Shot.

www.americanrifleman.org

And that guy already owned Fiocchi.

So one guy, (not an American) owns every single ammo producer except Olin. And I bet he buys that next.

 

[ebb]

All of this is because some rich guy wanted to play commando, and bought Remington.

 

[Laurie]

Interesting piece here on Sweden's new ammunition contract. That's where the Bofors grades that make up the majority of the Alliant Reloader grades are probably going these days.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2024/03/22/swedish-fmv-signs-contract-small-caliber-ammunition/

(Note the mention of contract options to extend purchase / supply until 2030!)

On Alliant's minority supplier, Swiss manufacturer Nitrochemie Wimmis, there may be better news. Some of our retailers have said on Facebook and elsewhere in the last few days that the entire Reload Swiss product range (the European brand name) will be back in stock next month after a near two-year absence.

(I'm waiting with some interest to see what their prices are - I suspect there will be some hefty increases.)

 

[TTE]

There's a lot room for blame to go around for price increases across the board. For one, government infusion of 8 trillion dollars in the monetary system is probably the best reason for skyrocketing prices.

When my wife and I go out for beer and hamburger and I wind up with a 60 dollar bill, its across the board for everything. It's F*G insane. Rant over!

Give up the hamburger

 

[Fire Dog]

Go back in my Time Machine.
DuPont 4831 in a Tin Can $7.45 a Pound.
McDonald's $.15 Cheese Burger
The $.05 Cigar
Ethyl Gas $.25 a gal.
LSMFT $.25 a pack.

Joe said we are doing fine.

Oh yes and we worked for $1.25 an hour...
All things in perspective...
BTW: I was buying H4831 for 50¢ a pound... Just bring your own container! 1965
Country is doing better than under the dictation of Mr Dump...

 

[CJ6]

Oh yes and we worked for $1.25 an hour...
All things in perspective...
BTW: I was buying H4831 for 50¢ a pound... Just bring your own container! 1965
Country is doing better than under the dictation of Mr Dump...

Bargain. I paid about $80-85 for 100# of 4895 around 70'.

.

 

[Ccrider]

It’s all cyclical. The party in charge of the whitehouse has a lots to do with the cycle.

 

[bluesako]

this is what i paid for a 1000 cci s\r\p some years ago 2005, and now shooters in the uk are paying £ 200 for a 1000, scary isnt it, why is it there is a shortage of american made primers ? but not russian murom primers which i would never use its crazy dave.

 

[pilot]

What do you all expect when the currency has been debased like Weimar Germany? Look around, it's happening with everything.

 

[urbanrifleman]

What do you all expect when the currency has been debased like Weimar Germany? Look around, it's happening with everything.

This. "Debased". Culturally and economically. Germany before WW2 is the key example.

And it's the same people doing it.

 

[Camper]

Weighed 135 pounds. Making $2.12 hr @ Chas Navy Yard. $50 rent. $60 month pmt on a new 66 Nova SS
No joe then. Had LBJ drowning us in a real KILLING war

A real KILLING war?... as opposed to what?... just a regular war? 21 years ago today my friend was shot right in the face in Iraq, but I'm glad to know that it probably wasn't a real killing war. When I wrote to his dad, a SF Vietnam Vet, right after it happened, I didn't include, "hey, but don't feel that bad, this isn't a real KILLING war". But that's ok, I seem to remember people like my grandfather who fought the Japanese saying that about Vietnam, as if it wasn't a real war. I'm not sure I would ever say something that stupid because I have respect for anyone who fought for their country. But here's some advice old guy, don't say the recent past 2 wars were not Killing wars to a Gold Star family. Hopefully you won't tell gold star families that or the families of all the people that have killed themselves and are still killing themselves. Someone needs to get the message out to them that they weren't fighting a real killing war... that might help lessen the number of suicides. When I go to Arlington, Sandhills at Bragg and the Georgia Veteran's Cemetery and a few other's at their local churches, I'll be sure to bring this up next time.

 

[p5200]

Reluctantly, I have realized that the price of Powder, as well as everything else,!has been skyrocketing. Why though, does it seem that Alliant powders are so much more than everyone else’s? Is it greed for profit? I now find myself switching to Vitahvouri powders, which I would have never foreseen. They went from being the most expensive, to the cheapest! Lol. Honestly, in my 40 years of reloading, I have never used these powders, but I have always heard wonderful things about them, so I must say I am looking forward to using them and working up new loads. Oh well, I guess in life we must pivot from time to time. I guess it keeps things interesting? (Glass half full way of thinking).

I guess their level of greed is a little higher than their competition.