HP rules concerning shot spotter sizes

[FatBoy]

could this be the one thing everyone agrees on with e-targets? Everyone gets the same spotter.

Common ground? I won't hold my breath

 

[Park ranger]

I think all the F class targets have to be the same, and all the sling have to be the same. But not sling and F class have to be the same.

 

[ED3]

To sling shooters...Palma, etc: As an F Class shooter, I am curious - Does the size of the spotter come into play in your sight picture? I've heard at least one sling shooter comment they's be content with golf tees... I can only imagine that a large disc, in the wrong place (at the edge of the aiming black) would be at least a distraction, or worse.

 

[Doug Beach]

To sling shooters...Palma, etc: As an F Class shooter, I am curious - Does the size of the spotter come into play in your sight picture? I've heard at least one sling shooter comment they's be content with golf tees... I can only imagine that a large disc, in the wrong place (at the edge of the aiming black) would be at least a distraction, or worse.

As a sling shooter, I want a spotter big enough to see through my spotting scope, but no larger. The comments regarding sling shooters wanting / needing larger spotters than F shooters make no sense, to me. We’re all looking at the target with optics.

 

[lawman29]

So ask yourself what is the intent of the "same size spotter" rule? It would seem obvious that the NRA wants shooters who are competing against each other to have a level playing field so that one is not at a disadvantage or advantage over another (ie. bad conditions like heavy, heavy mirage, or smoke, fog etc, one guy has a larger spotter and the others a little one - seen a little one darn near disappear at Billings at 600 or a big spotter in good conditions for one guy in Fopen and the rest of Fopen shooters have a little one...). As has been said Sling is not competing against FTR nor FTR against F-Open etc; the NRA should have no problem as long as those competing against each other are using the same size.

 

[Doug Beach]

To sling shooters...Palma, etc: As an F Class shooter, I am curious - Does the size of the spotter come into play in your sight picture? I've heard at least one sling shooter comment they's be content with golf tees... I can only imagine that a large disc, in the wrong place (at the edge of the aiming black) would be at least a distraction, or worse.

Also, to answer the question, I find a large spotter can be distracting, but not at the edge, rather, ~almost~ in the middle. Match rifle sights are circle in circle in circle. A fourth, slightly off center circle, is distracting. It also means I’m looking at the target...bad Doug.

 

[Erud]

As a sling shooter, I want a spotter big enough to see through my spotting scope, but no larger. The comments regarding sling shooters wanting / needing larger spotters than F shooters make no sense, to me. We’re all looking at the target with optics.

Doug,
It’s true we are all looking at the Target with optics, but my 25x spotter is lower magnification than what’s usually in use by f-class shooters on their rifle scopes. Also, my scope isn't focused on the target, so really small spotters get tough to see. I can usually deal with flourescent colored golf tees at 300 yards if the lighting is pretty good, but white tees can be hard to see without having to focus on the target. A 1/2 moa spotter is a good size for me with irons.

 

[Papa Charlie]

As a sling shooter, I want a spotter big enough to see through my spotting scope, but no larger. The comments regarding sling shooters wanting / needing larger spotters than F st
hooters make no sense, to me. We’re all looking at the target with optics.

I shoot FTR, but this makes sense to me. I use the spotter in my rifle scope for relationship to where I hit, compared to point of aim and evironment affect on round. But I am learning to use my spotting scope to figure POA on next shot. For me it is a major learning process to understand what I see and how it affects my round over X amount of time. The marker for the last shot doesn't really help for the next shot beyond comparison between aim and OA.
Or am I missing something?

 

[Cochran]

That may be the rule but nobody is using a spotter that is the same size as the x ring.

Chris
That's true. Nobody is using the same size as the X ring-except at Raton. Most of the week there were golf tees, 3/4-1'' spotters (didn't measure one to see for sure but looked tiny) and 3'' spotters.
At 500 and 600 most everyone used the 3/4'' until mirage got up and it was barely visible. Then the only option was 3'' even if it covered the X ring. Early in the week I heard people ask pit officers about 1.5'' but were told there were none.
The thing is, during one team match I went down to pull and found a few 1.5'' spotters at the target they assigned me to. There were other targets that also had 1.5'' spotters laying on the benches. They miraculously appeared. My guess is a couple of teams or individuals supplied their own but I don't know for sure.

 

[marty dabney]

To sling shooters...Palma, etc: As an F Class shooter, I am curious - Does the size of the spotter come into play in your sight picture? I've heard at least one sling shooter comment they's be content with golf tees... I can only imagine that a large disc, in the wrong place (at the edge of the aiming black) would be at least a distraction, or worse.

when I was shooting irons or even a 4.5x Service Rifle optic it didn't really matter much but since I switched over to a 15x scope on my match rifle I wouldn't mind a 1 inch spotter. if the 3 inch spotter is on the 3oclock line of the x ring its easy to gravitate over to it if your not careful.

 

[Medic505]

They miraculously appeared

And, on that point, it's pretty damn sad that the appropriate sized spotters were not available to every shooter on the line. At a National Championship no less.

I've shot 600 yard matches at many ranges, can't remember one where a 1.5" spotter was not available.

 

[Immike]

And, on that point, it's pretty damn sad that the appropriate sized spotters were not available to every shooter on the line. At a National Championship no less.

I've shot 600 yard matches at many ranges, can't remember one where a 1.5" spotter was not available.

We used to make our own if I remember right

 

[rardoin]

As a sling shooter, I want a spotter big enough to see through my spotting scope, but no larger. The comments regarding sling shooters wanting / needing larger spotters than F shooters make no sense, to me. We’re all looking at the target with optics.

I've never shot sling so thanks for that clarification.

 

[memilanuk]

And, on that point, it's pretty damn sad that the appropriate sized spotters were not available to every shooter on the line. At a National Championship no less.

Really, is anyone who has shot at Raton at all surprised by this kind of thing anymore?