how many shooters own a 6 br that won't shoot good groups under 200 yds

[jonbearman]

I bought a criterion for a savage build and was unhappy with it. It didn't group no matter the load. My Remington VS would out shoot it blindfolded , but any company can make a few turds so I know others who use them with excellent results just no me. I shoot 68 grainers with 28.6 of H322 with excellent results. N135 is a great powder so try some other powders before you give up and primers. I use mostly rem 7 1/2's (match) primers with the H322 with light bullets , it is a really good load. Are you absolutely sure you have a 1 in 8 because I bought a new barrel and it wouldn't shoot heavys so I checked it and after chambering and such it turned out to be about a 1 in 10.

 

[STS]

Slug the barrel. I'd bet you'll find something you don't like.

 

[Old Navy]

I have two model 12 benchrest . A lot can be gained by tuning the action screws. I mean a lot. It is well documented. I have a 6.5X47 three screw that shoots great with the center screw removed. The 6BR likes the front two at one setting and something less on the rear.

 

[Richard Coody]

hi
savage model 12 varmit action, single shot, cbi 1-8 twist,6 br, 28inch bull barrel,ss, custom stk, action mounted on a alum v block , rifle basics trigger, target crown , no wood interference,f class 21# gun, sightron 10-50, warner base and rings, 20 moa

bullets tried
bergers, 105 vld, 105 hybris, 80 g flat base, 95 g vld, 105hpbt,108hpbt
sierras 107 bthp
hornady 105 eld
nozler 105 cust comp hpbt
barts 105 hybrids 105 vld equals, 105 guners??
80g dominators hpbt
might be others i was given by others to try
powders, varget , rl 15, imr 4895 , h4895
primers ,federal, cci 450, wsr
brass, new lapua
have also shot other persons reloads with different bullets to try too.

Look 6br's just shoot well. Below is a target shot during load development for one of my savages. This is just after barrel breakin with berger 105 vld's jammed. Powder charges, varget, from 29gr to 30.2 gr. You are just wasting time and components. Pull the barrel and order a shilen select match from NSS and i bet you problem improves substantially.

 

[kawsam62s]

hi
both barrels are being returned as we speak for evaluation,
hopefully it will work out positive!!
thx for the help everyone
scott

 

[kawsam62s]

Look 6br's just shoot well. Below is a target shot during load development for one of my savages. This is just after barrel breakin with berger 105 vld's jammed. Powder charges, varget, from 29gr to 30.2 gr. You are just wasting time and components. Pull the barrel and order a shilen select match from NSS and i bet you problem improves substantially.

hi
that is what I expected
never got even close.

 

[demonjigger]

what stock was it in? you said aluminum v block but which one?

 

[kawsam62s]

what stock was it in? you said aluminum v block but which one?

hi
custom made stock with a custom made aluminum v block simular to the whiddon v block

 

[demonjigger]

I know other guys that have had issues with the V blocks and you can try different torque settings as someone mentioned earlier and hone in on what works. I just helped a friend the other day with this same issue. Good luck, if it's not the barrel I would try a different stock that is known to shoot. Unless you are already confident in the stock, then it's likely the barrel. Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[zap]

Make sure that your front screw in your base is NOT touching your barrel threads. It will push your base ever so slightly and basically be a tad loose. Just another check for in the future if problems arise.
Please let us know how this turns out for you.

 

[Lone Hunter]

hi
both barrels are being returned as we speak for evaluation,
hopefully it will work out positive!!
thx for the help everyone
scott

kawsam62, what is or was the outcome on the return of the barrels or is there an outcome yet. If not please keep us updated.

 

[searcher]

imho, if it won't shoot that combo, find another barrel.

I'd not be too quick to yank the barrel. My gun won't shoot that load at all, but will put 105 Scenar L bullets into a tiny hole.

Every barrel I've ever had either shot great right away or it didn't

That has been just the opposite for my experiences. Seems my barrels seldom shoot the "preferred loads", but satisfaction is almost always found in time at the range trying different powders and/or bullets with varying technique such as jam. I think Barts gave great advice doing a jam on the bullet. That is what my 6BR and Dashers like. I'd do that with light tension, trying Rel 15 and Varget. Jamming also can help with slight alignment issues with the press - as it positions the bullet pointing straight (the front, anyway) down the bore. I'd also unscrew the action from the V-Block and (if not already done), skim bed the V-Block. Take care not to push the shoulder back more than .002" from max blow-out. Just to rule out shooting technique - maybe shoot test groups free-recoil. I'd not rush to think your barrel won't shoot. I've bought several used barrels on this site that were "1/2 MOA barrels". The last Bartlein I bought for fireforming my Dasher is the most accurate barrel I have ever owned - and I've got and had a bunch. Hang in there!

 

[Old Navy]

kawsam62, What is the latest on the barrels you sent back?

 

[Fast14riot]

Did you ever try dialing scope power back down for close range? When I see someone shoot good at longer distances but not well at short range, it can often times be attributed to "target panic" by being able to see every slightest movement, so we try to compensate. Try shooting at 20-25x so your total target picture looks about the same as 600.

 

[JB10]

I have a nss remmage 1:8twist 26 inch on a plain r700 action. Useing h4895 27gr with berger 105 hybrids. Alnost no neck tension, loaded 10 thou long making a soft seat when chambering round. Not a lot of speed but extremely accurate.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Shooting short range is not as easy as most people think. Different things matter- you can find a bad trigger and figure out what kind of sand you have in the bags along with what the bags are made of at short range. Just touching the stock sometimes will hurt you.

 

[searcher]

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Shooting short range is not as easy as most people think

That is so true. I recall going to my first bench rest match around 1985. Got smoked so bad I felt like a burnt campfire marshmallow.

 

[kawsam62s]

kawsam62, What is the latest on the barrels you sent back?

hi, they said nothing wrong with the barrels, but I got a
full refund!, so i bought 2 kreigers from otm, 1-7.5, 30.00" rifle cut , have 50 rounds down the tube and allready looks very hopefull,but lots of work still to go.
scott

 

[Clark]

I have built ~ 40 rifles for myself.
The (3) most accurate were the (3) 6mmBR rifles.
It does not matter if it is Lapua or RP brass, they both work.

Next down is 223. A 223 with a bull barrel will make small groups.

 

[Steve Ladino]

hi
as the questions says my 6 br absolutely will not shoot under 200 yds good groups with many different, powders, primers ,bullets, seating depths, 750 rounds worth of trying, and i am at my wits end! I did get 10 rounds to shoot good groups at 600 yds, maybe? still need to repeat that test to be confident.
thoughts?
thx for the help!

750 rounds of testing is a lot of barrel life expired. I had an experience with one of my 6 br's where I thought I was getting it clean and wasn't, finally I wrapped a chamber mop with 0000 steel wool and worked over the first seven inches or so of the bore, after I saw it thru a bore scope, I was using Hoppes old number 9. Fortunately my accuracy got great. Now Hoppes is used for wiping out IOSSO paste residue.