Hornady Lock n load reversal?

[Hino895]

Picked up a Hornady Lock n load single stage press at a good deal.
I load too many different calibers to convert all my dies to the lock and load bushing.
Is there a insert available to to convert it to standard screw in die with lock ring?
I’m thinking a threaded bushing from a RCBS rock chucker press.
Help.

 

[JMayo]

Doesn't the conversion bushing screw out ? Idk ...

 

[Bill Norris]

I don't see anything available to reverse the L & L system.

 

[Metal God]

Not sure I understand the issue you have . I understand what you asked but why are you looking to change . Just have one extra bushing you use for all the other dies . If you are willing to screw each die in and out of the press , what's so different if you are screwing them in and out of the bushing ? If you have the lock ring set , screwing in and out of the bushing should be repeatable .

I use the same press and although I have most of my dies in there own bushing respectively . Not all are and I just use a separate bushing for all others . It's not a whole lot different then simply screwing the die right into the press .

That all said RCBS make a conversion to the Hordandy bushing system for there Rock chucker presses . You have to take the factory threaded section out and screw in the bushing adaptor . The question would be will the factory RCBS piece they take out thread into the Hornady press if you remove the bushing insert piece . I don't know if the two presses use the same threading to match .

They apparently make this in both 1.5 inch and 1.25 inch sizes so you need to know the size of the original Hornady hole. I am guessing it is 1.25 inches. But YMMV

Here is the 1.25 conversion . but you have to be sure the Hornady is 1-1/4 x12 first

RCBS Thread Adapter Bushing 1-1/4-12 to 1-14 Thread

Used for converting obscure thread sizes to a more standardized thread size for use with modern dies.Notes:FeaturesAllows fitting a part with thread of...

www.midwayusa.com

 

[Hino895]

I think metal god has answered my question. thank you sir.

 

[varget204]

Yes Titan Reloading Had them,I got 2 for my presses

 

[Twicepop]

Hornady had a problem with the L&L system for a number of years. The L&L bushing/adapter system had heat treat problems and would prematurely wear giving inconsistent sizing and seating.

 

[V509]

Standard dies are 7/8-14 thread

you can install five of the LNL bushings and not remove them. Just unscrew your dies and screw in new ones

 

[Metal God]

Hornady had a problem with the L&L system for a number of years. The L&L bushing/adapter system had heat treat problems and would prematurely wear giving inconsistent sizing and seating.

Don’t know for sure but I think they are aluminum, maybe not but they seem lighter then if they were steel

 

[divingin]

The Hornady press holes are threaded 1-1/4" x 12tpi, same as most presses with a bushing. The LNL receiver screws into that, so any insert that converts from that to 7/8" x 14 should work.

Lee has them at $20 retail per piece. Midway had the RCBS adaptors at near $60/ea, but now lists them as discontinued (don't know if that's Midway or RCBS that discontinued them.)

If you use the LNL bushing and just leave it in place, there won't be any wear from removal/reinsertion; and since you've probably already got those bushings, it seems pretty simple to run with that.

You might want to call Hornady and see if they have the adaptor; I seem to remember seeing that at one time, but can't find it now. They may send you one free if they have it.

 

[vonb]

Hornady had a problem with the L&L system for a number of years. The L&L bushing/adapter system had heat treat problems and would prematurely wear giving inconsistent sizing and seating.

Can you expound on this? I just had one of the splines in the bushing break at the edge. I went to this system many years ago in a Lee single-stage and regret it now due to the cost of the bushings.

 

[Twicepop]

Can you expound on this? I just had one of the splines in the bushing break at the edge. I went to this system many years ago in a Lee single-stage and regret it now due to the cost of the bushings.

There isn't much more I can add to my previous post. The article I read (I don't recall where anymore) stated that at that time there was an ongoing problem with the bushings for the L&L system due to heat treating problems. Premature wear and sometimes breakage along with erratic case sizing and bullet seating because of the premature wear of the pieces involved. For whatever it may be worth (perhaps nothing) I felt the L&L system was an answer to a non existing question. How big of a deal is it to screw dies in or screw them out?

 

[divingin]

How big of a deal is it to screw dies in or screw them out?

Along the same lines as asking which is preferable: removing a BAT type firing pin assembly with the bayonet or a Remington assembly that screws together. Though you probably do that a lot less than changing dies.