Hold off center for wind

[Bottom Fodder]

Let’s say shooting at 1K those of you that hold off center for wind calls what the most (ring #)you have ever held off in the worst wind you have shot in, 8 ring, 9? just curious

 

[lawrence97]

I have held on my neighbors target on the left or right.

 

[gme]

my scope reticle has graduations out to 10 minutes, at Ben Avery I've used all of it ++

 

[rardoin]

If you shoot enough F-class LR you will eventually have 3 minutes on the gun and holding rings/edge of your neighbor's target...particularly in F-TR. Us Open folk get to cheat.

 

[Warren Dean]

Left edge of the target next to mine. You have obviously never shot in any wind to speak of. It's going to be an eye opener for you...

 

[Walt Krafft]

Shooting sling with a scope one year at Camp Perry, I held wide 7 to get an X on my final shot. Last 5 shots I held wider and wider and wider, just waiting for it to go exactly where I was aiming.

 

[F Class John]

Out at Rattlesnake in Central Washington years back was the most I've ever put and held on a gun in a match. I had my open gun shooting 284win with about 7-7.5 minutes on the gun and still holding nearly edge of board at times. Others had as much as 8.5 on the gun and still holding near edge of board.

It was a crazy day but so much fun to look back on.

Edit: Forgot to say this was at 1000yds

 

[Bottom Fodder]

Keep those cards and letters coming, I feel a lot better now knowing I’m not the only that had to hold on the next target over lol

 

[JEFFPPC]

Often shooting 500 yds at 1 inch 10 rings with a 6ppc I have often held on neighboring targets. Somwtimes it worked very well . No I never shot the other guys targets.

 

[foxguy]

Often shooting 500 yds at 1 inch 10 rings with a 6ppc I have often held on neighboring targets. Somwtimes it worked very well . No I never shot the other guys targets.

Jeff Just curious, Winds in mph Appx?, And, how far away was your neighbors Target?

 

[Greg@wfcustom]

I have held on my neighbors target on the left or right.

Reno (Palamino) 1000 YD Nats 2004.
I was holding on the target next to me center to left edge.
Wind Flags?? LOL We were calculating the angle of bend in the poles
By the way, I finished 2nd overall to Tom Price, he was the only one who kept every shot on paper.
(I had 1 off).
I shoot at Sac Valley, and as anyone who has shot in the Ione Triangle can tell you it can get quite sporting. But I have never shot in anything like that match in Reno.
G

 

[JLT]

I have held on my neighbors target on the left or right.

Yep. Me, too. One time off my target right and off my target left in the same 20 shot string. That's Long Range Alley (LA) for you . . .

 

[JEFFPPC]

Jeff Just curious, Winds in mph Appx?, And, how far away was your neighbors Target?

At that match there are no windflags of anykind. Ok, center of the 10 ring to the edge of the target is 5 .75 inches. I guess there is about 6 inches between targets, no more than that. There are 3.5 inches of target u til you hit the 6/7 line. I never went in farther than that. So maybe13 inches max. Usually just to the edge or slightly over on the other target so 9 to 11 inches. This usually was in a 9 to 3 wind and the mirage flowing HARD. Shooting out an old strip mine with lots of wet areas. I don't do wind speed per se. Just flags mirage, and experience.

 

[JEFFPPC]

I'm trying to visualize the distance between the targets, it's been a few years since I shot there. They changed the rules....I'm protesting. You can shoot multiple guns in a class and use your best score. Bull pucky. You know like getting 9 strikes before your out. By the time a guy gets to his 3rd gun he pretty much should have things figured out. Buy a win.

 

[Alan Warner]

And all of this is why you need to know the distance center to center of the range you are on.

 

[JEFFPPC]

And all of this is why you need to know the distance center to center of the range you are on.

If you try to judge wind speed and do the calculations it would be good to know.

 

[dannyjbiggs]

If you try to judge wind speed and do the calculations it would be good to know.

Rough rule of thumb and generally speaking: 10 minutes. But who cares...hold off is hold off!!

 

[Fuj]

Shot a steel plate match that was a good 3 ft' hold, and that is
if the targets were still there. The wind was blowing the steel
off the posts......LOL

 

[goodi]

Having enjoyed the challenge of LRBR (mainly 1000yd BR and in recent years 600yd BR) in Australia for approx 20 years, I have observed that the majority of competitors dial on or off their predicted windage allowances.

However I am in the minority who attain a still air zero at either 600 or 1000 and then aim off.

As an example having shot on public ranges and private ranges , for the calibres I use at 1000yds, I have found that a 2.5 knot (2.9 mph) crosswind will deflect projectiles from the target centre to the edge of the paper.

A 5 knot (5.8 mph) cross wind equates to about a full target width.

It is my experience that in Australia rarely are the conditions soft enough to allow aiming at the blue aiming mark throughout the match.

On average 5 to 15 knot winds are quite normal and in some areas 30 knot winds are quite regular.

Naturally the clickers wind for these conditions but I prefer to use the 5 knot per target hold of allowance and yes at times my hold offs can be many feet or many yards.

Sometimes it works and sometimes it is not successful.

In my opinion the advantage offered by using the still air zero is that in snaking or rapidly switching conditions (which occurs here regularly) i can almost instantly adapt and hold off either on the right or left of the target.

I have observed on many occasions that many of the inexperienced scope winders cannot quickly adapt to these difficult conditions or in fact they get confused and lost with their scope windage settings, which results in no group no score.

Regardless of the technique used IMHO, LRBR is the most difficult , satisfying and challenging competitive precision shooting discipline in the world.

cheers

goodi

 

[snert]

Not competition...just a story of hunting. 660 yards, 22-250, 55 grain Sierra Sp. Target, mature groundhog. Wind ripping left to right across a valley. I held to the left the approximate width of a grand piano keyboard..or about 6 stretched out groundhogs. I hit just off his nose with first round. He was facing right...
Next round I added a half groundhog and dumped him right there. My witness spotter promptly sold all his close range groundhog gear, got into 1000 yard at Williamsport and came back a year later with a rookie of the year trophy and a serious desire to whack groundhogs.