Henry or Shiloh Sharps

[backlash]

Should I get a Henry Case Hardened Octagon Barrel in 45-70 or save more and get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110?

I'm 80 so in either case it would end up in a trust for my one year old great grandson who's name, by the way, is Henry.

 

[XTR]

Just my personal opinions here, there are others.

I love my falling blocks. Two are ’74 Sharps, one is a C.Sharps, one is a Pedersoli both are 45-70. The other is a modern Winchester (Miroku) high wall also I. 45-70.

So personally, I’d get a Sharps, either a Pedersoli or one of the Big Timber, MT makers. (There are options to get a Shiloh that are faster. ) and I’d get it in 45-70. Unless you are planning to shoot long range competition there really isn’t any reason to get a longer case, and 45-70 brass is easier to get.

 

[rkb21]

I love my Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110? It's one of the most accurate open site gun I've ever owned.it can be a long wait time to get one mine took almost 3 years but still worth it.

Ron

 

[backlash]

Just my personal opinions here, there are others.

I love my falling blocks. Two are ’74 Sharps, one is a C.Sharps, one is a Pedersoli both are 45-70. The other is a modern Winchester (Miroku) high wall also I. 45-70.

So personally, I’d get a Sharps, either a Pedersoli or one of the Big Timber, MT makers. (There are options to get a Shiloh that are faster. ) and I’d get it in 45-70. Unless you are planning to shoot long range competition there really isn’t any reason to get a longer case, and 45-70 brass is easier to get.

Good info, thanks

 

[Cbashooter]

another option is the CPA 44-1/2
I have quite an assortment of single shots and am rather fond of them.
It all depends on what you plan to do with the rifle for caliber choice.(like mentioned Above by XTR)The 45-70 is good enough for about anything unless you are shooting competition at extreme range with heavy bullets and black powder.
if you are a bullet caster and reloader the 38-55 is another option that pushes less lead and uses less powder that's wonderful accurate and a classic single shot cartridge.

The H&R single shot Buffalo Classic 45-70 while no longer made is a better option than the Henry IMHO.I've had a few and they were tack drivers.

 

[backlash]

I love my Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110? It's one of the most accurate open site gun I've ever owned.it can be a long wait time to get one mine took almost 3 years but still worth it.

Ron

3 years! When was that? Still the same today?

 

[jghoghunter]

Go with the Shiloh and never look back. Also those shooting black powder steel out to 500 meters are not using 45/110. Most are using 40/65-45/70.

 

[XTR]

Other than ordering and waiting yrs you can get a Shiloh from Bill Goodman. I’ve read that it can significantly speed up the process unless you want something complete custom. He is the only stocking dealer for Shiloh’s.

Shiloh-Ballard.com

 

[rkb21]

3 years! When was that? Still the same today?

It was awhile ago

 

[Evan]

I don't know if it's of interest, but thought I would mention that Hagn makes a really exceptional falling block rifle. It's a step above Shiloh in price. Just in case you weren't aware of him. It's a dream of mine but probably won't happen due to the cost. He's getting up there in age too so I don't suspect many more will be made.

 

[wboggs]

Get the Shiloh. As others have stated, think long and hard about the .45-110.
I used to shoot competition and my partner used a .45-120. I used a .45-70 and the bigger case had no advantage to 500 meters.
In fact the .40-65 would run with us with less recoil.

 

[Rook 6]

Already been said, I’ll say it anyway. Go 45-70. 45-110 sounds cool until you run through a shooting session with one. Unless it’s going to be a wall hanger then by all means. 45-70 is way easier to feed also.

 

[FireMedic]

Shiloh!!

 

[JSH]

45-70 and Shiloh.
I doubt the Henry will be what the Shiloh is in another 80 years.

 

[lawman29]

Shiloh Sharps no contest....
I bought a Sporter No. 3 in 45/70 for black powder my first. Steve Garbe and Keith Kilby counseled me as to the choice of calibers being a newbie.
I do have concerns about your choices for your a gun that will ultimately be your great grandson's...
A 45/70 is quite a bit to handle and mastering black powder is another concern, but you can shoot smokeless... So there it is sitting in gun safe to show folks - look what grandpa gave me...
It's one thing to inherit great grandpa's old deer gun, but that isn't what we're talking about. I would like to suggest another direction for you to consider....something special and something that will be used...
Something like an original 1892 Winchester. They are the old pistol cartridges and fun to shoot (25/20, 32/20, 38/40 & 44/40). You could look for something mfg prior to 1900. I have one made in 1894 32/20 takedown that will go to my son and then his daughter (She's left handed and already has my original Marlin Model 39 .22 mfg in 1929...). Now that is fun to shoot. Another one 44/40 takedown mfg 1911 will go to a grandson. Also a 1894 30/30 made in 1909... All have the old marble tang site installed for my aging eyes.
Food for thought....

 

[backlash]

Should I get a Henry Case Hardened Octagon Barrel in 45-70 or save more and get a Shiloh Sharps 1874 Quigley in 45-110?

I'm 80 so in either case it would end up in a trust for my one year old great grandson who's name, by the way, is Henry.

Well I agreed with everyone and got them all. Henry Case Hardened Heavy Octagon Barrel in 45-70, Winchester 1885 High Wall in 45-120 and a maxed out Shiloh Sharps Hartford 30" is on order. Long time out so I haven't had to select a caliber. After high and wide search for 45-120 (cartridge or brass) was unsuccessful, I may go with something in a 50-XX. Thoughts?

My Henry is beautiful and I love the Winchester (Uberti) 1885 falling block. I looked very hard at a Ruger No 1. I confess, the asymmetrical shape of the block in the Ruger bugs me. Really! I may get one down the road if I can find one. There are a few on gunbrokers but none with a caliber I reload. Maybe the .300 Weatherby Magnum would be nice.

 

[XTR]

Order whatever the minimum lot size is from Starline to get them to do a run then sell the 9900 or so you don’t need.

 

[Bob P]

My Shiloh 40-65 took 2.5 years from order to delivery. I picked it up in Big Timber last January and ordered another #1 while I was there.

Tough to go wrong with a 45-70

 

[Ray123]

I like the 45-90 but it's in the 1886 Win, but also shoot the 45-70 in 2 rifles...and also shoot 45-70 in tbe 45-90. I like the Sharps, but that doesn't mean anything...Mike Venturino in Montana has lots of competition experience with these rifles in black and smokeless powder, and many articles published over the years on these rifles...and has many published books....check out someone with real experience to back up an opinion.

 

[BigBolt]

I am a Henry 45/70 owner H010B amd other calibers. The sharps is a great gun very well made. The 45/70 rounds are easily obtainable than the 45/110 rounds. Which one you decide to buy I recoment the 45/70 chamber.