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First Lever gun. Henry, Marlin or other ?

Had a total of 15 of them. The pre 70s were of much better quality. The 70s guns and up until the turn of the century were of much lesser quality. Right out of the box --- revolver chambers that weren't properly honed, out of timing , ejection rod spring that was half the proper length. The common saying was "when you buy a S&W you should buy two and maybe one will work. Their quality was so poor that they practically came out with a new gun a month so that would be collectors would buy the first edition and that would keep them in business. After DIrty Harrry, the demand increased and their policy was to get as many guns out as fast as possible and if there was a problem, the purchaser could send them back for warrantee service. Problem was that the gun came back without being completely fixed. The only two good S&Ws I had were a K-22 and a 25-something. Both were purchased used and both made before Dirty Harry. The first S&W I bought in decades is a 22LR Victory. So pleased with it that I am giving their M&P 22 Magnum a try.
Maybe I was just lucky, but I owned a bunch of them all pre-2000, Model 17's, Model 34's, Model 19's, Model 27's, Model 14's, Model 60, one Model 29 and in the late 80's a few 586's. None of mine had the problems you described.

Both my Model 17 and Model 14 would hold, albeit a sloppy "X" ring at 50 yards with target grade ammo as tested and verified with a Ranson Rest.

The Model 41's (22 semi-auto's) were very accurate but had reliability issues with ejection. I much preferred the Hi-Standard Citation models which is what we shot on the post pistol team at Ft. Belvoir in the early 70's.

The Model 29's were extremely difficult to find. I did manage to get one and it was beautifully crafted, and I shot the hell of it and never had a problem. When I was offered over double what I paid for it, I sold it believing I could get another one and make a huge profit in the bargain. Never happened. When they did become readily available much later, I had lost interest.

After many years of services and many rounds, a few of mine developed some "end shake" which I corrected with Power Custom washers. Also, the Model 19's (K frame) would loosen up and develop timing issues with a steady diet of full powder 158 grain 357 magnum loads.
 
For a first lever gun just get the one that makes you smile the most. I haven’t met many guys who have shot a lever gun enough to wear it out.

There was a guy who used a 45 colt laser training cartridge with a little of the rim ground off so his lever gun wouldn’t eject it - always thought that’s a great idea - racking the action in any lever gun is just fun.
 
Whatever it is, for me, it has to have sidegate for single loading. Had a Browning BL22, first time out with it on chickens pissed me off, as I could not single feed that thing with cold fngers, port was just too small.
 
I'm wanting a lever gun in .45 Colt but can't decide on brand. Another dilemma is a receiver made of brass or steel or case hardened steel for durability and strength if Henry made.

TIA,
Bill


Marlin

Iffin ya like to tinker

Marlins are simple to pull down to clean.......

Buff/polish the innards

Make 'em as smooth as a baby's butt

FYI.....X/bolt safety started in 1983 (ish)

Pre '83 safety models fetch more bucks

2010+ yrs is when Remington took over & screwed the pooch

Five yrs later they turned around..then went bankrupt

Ruger now building Marlins now...good reviews so far..but $$$

45 Colt is a mini 45-70........great cartridge from mild to wild
 
To me the marlin is superior in every way. You can remove the lever and bolt to clean like a bolt action. The action is strong and smooth on the older ones.I have one from 46 and the guy who blued it almost wouldnt let me out of the shop. He said the polish job and retention of the lettering looked as pro as he had ever seen. It is a masterpiece of hand fitted parts. Find a used one and enjoy it for life.
 
I really want to like Henry; they've got a great marketing pitch. However, every time I pick one up I'm thoroughly impressed by furniture fitment, forends that are loose, and forend lines that resemble a fish belly. It's just a poor copy of the Marlin anyway, so now that Marlin is being produced again I'd really want to put hands on one of those before buying the knockoff. I would personally buy a Rossi R92 first and save a couple hundred bucks; at least that's a knockoff of a design I like. I'm also not one to send my guns in for service if something breaks, so that should figure into your decision as well. Every account I've read of Henry's customer service has been positive. Rossi... goes both ways it seems. Good luck
Henry has generally never impressed me either.

Danny
 
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32-20,357,44 and 5 30-30 Marlins. One lonely 375 Big Bore 94. So I am partial to the Marlins mainly for ease of cleaning and no scope issues if I choose to do so.
From the Henry’s I have had my hands on I doubt they will hold up in the long run as well as a Marlin or Winchester has over the years.
 
I agree that the best action is the 1892 for a pistol cartridge in whatever iteration you like the best. I may have gotten lucky, but my Rossi 92 has a very slick action and fantastic trigger right out of the box. The Italian versions are the prettiest from an aesthetic point of view but pricey.
 
Since Ruger is making the Marlins now they should be great. I would like to hear some feedback on these too from someone that has one.
I would as well. I had 2 Marlin 45/70s and they sucked as far as the action binding.
 
The Italian versions are the prettiest from an aesthetic point of view but pricey.
I like my Cimmaron(Chiappa) 1892, but there are some things about the Rossi I like better. The Chiappa 92s have a lot of weird design geometry inside even compared to originals and they seem to try to solve problems that didn't exist.
I had to do a lot of modifying of the carrier, ejector, and cartridge guides to get it to feed slightly longer(.040) cartridges, but it does so reliably now. On the other hand, the Rossi's have updated these parts already and some of their carbines come out of the factory more tolerant of longer length cartridges than others.
 
I'm wanting a lever gun in .45 Colt but can't decide on brand. Another dilemma is a receiver made of brass or steel or case hardened steel for durability and strength if Henry made.

TIA,
Bill
6 of one and 1/2 of a dozen of the other. I just prefer Henrys but that is just me.
 
My experience is with a Rossi 92 stainless .44 Mag and a Henry Big Boy steel carbine in .357. The .357 is more fun to shoot as the Rossi belts you with .44 Mag if using full-house loads. Accuracy on the Henry is better producing sub 1" groups @ 50 yards using a red dot. Cleaning the Henry is easier than the Rossi 92 as it's easier to take apart and clean from the rear. Henry's bluing looks cheap and could be better (i.e. deeper).

The Rossi is a lighter gun and is preferred for walking. The action is really smooth as it's a recently made rig. The one thing that bugs me is the oversized chambers on the Rossis. Triggers on both break in the 4.5 lb round out of the box. If looking for a .45 Colt and thinking Rossi, I'd go with their .454 Casull. That will give you the option of both .45 Colt and the .454.
 
I have a like brand new Marlin 30 30 that I got in a trade. I think it's impressive. I threw it on the classifieds and no one wants it! I was very surprised. I think I'll just keep it
 
I got a Marlin 444S (micro groove) many years ago it's a great rifle for its purpose. I won a Marlin 44 magnum in a raffle I shot it maybe 100 times. I did not see any real advantage over my 44 magnum revolver so I sold it and got Glock 31, dies and loads of reloading supplies.
 
I was set to get a Rossi92 in 38/357 until I found out that they use 1:30 twist barrels!
what were they thinking?
 

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