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Hammer style bullet puller - Accidental discharge.

The one I witnessed was brand new Lapua 6BR brass, so very tight primer pockets. Loaded with RL-15 which will not even fit thru the flash hole. CCI 400 primers right out of the box. Just the impact from the tool detonated the primer. It's conceivable that just friction from something like the anvil moving with the impact can set it off. You can choose to believe it can't happen but I can tell you it can.
 
The one I witnessed was brand new Lapua 6BR brass, so very tight primer pockets. Loaded with RL-15 which will not even fit thru the flash hole. CCI 400 primers right out of the box. Just the impact from the tool detonated the primer. It's conceivable that just friction from something like the anvil moving with the impact can set it off. You can choose to believe it can't happen but I can tell you it can.
Could it be from the anvil being a bit loose and mashing the primer compound?
Another thought. If the priming compound had an area that wasn't thoroughly mixed before loading into the primer cups, could the resulting primer ignite with a strong whack?
 
Could it be from the anvil being a bit loose and mashing the primer compound?
Another thought. If the priming compound had an area that wasn't thoroughly mixed before loading into the primer cups, could the resulting primer ignite with a strong whack?

Does it matter? A child burns it's finger and doesn't need to know the stoichiometry that was involved but learns not to do it again.
 
Could it be from the anvil being a bit loose and mashing the primer compound?
Another thought. If the priming compound had an area that wasn't thoroughly mixed before loading into the primer cups, could the resulting primer ignite with a strong whack?
Not withstanding a proud primer, how is this any different from slamming the rifle bolt home or seating primers on an Auto- prime or Forster bench primer? I understand there is lesson to be learned here concerning proud primers (Some impact bullet pullers even address this caution in their instructions). But just the nature of what we are doing with them should demand that we pay attention to the smallest detail and adhere to the tools instruction sheet to the letter. There is a learning curve to their use, and it took me quite a while to develop a technique that required minimum hits. A block of hardwood, holding the tool with a loose grip, hitting the block squarely with the head (like driving a nail) with moderate force. I stop after each blow to inspect. Now I will add checking for proud primer to the list. FWIW, my tool is labeled Midway bought in 2004 and looks EXACTLY like Franfort Arsenals and a couple others all blue plastic with a hexagonal aluminum bar between the head and handle. It has not seen concrete or steel and looks brand new after hundreds of pulls.
 
That’s the one I tried after the impact type but not enough lead exposed to get a good grip. Slid right off.
Collet pullers don't work well on lead, unless there's a lot of bearing surface exposed.

I've had to dismantle 50 45ACP 200SWC rounds that had the wrong charge; using a kinetic puller, it took between 3 and 12 whacks on the endgrain of a hardwood block to get them out. Took a while, but figure it was good arm exercise [that I don't want to repeat.]
 
Collet pullers don't work well on lead, unless there's a lot of bearing surface exposed.

I've had to dismantle 50 45ACP 200SWC rounds that had the wrong charge; using a kinetic puller, it took between 3 and 12 whacks on the endgrain of a hardwood block to get them out. Took a while, but figure it was good arm exercise [that I don't want to repeat.]
Agree completely, but I switched to collets for the opposite reason - when faced with pulling bullets from close to 100 .223 rounds and an equal number of .17 Remingtons that I was given. Not trusting the loading expertise of the person who gave them to me, I chose to salvage the brass and bullets where possible. Since 'inertia' means just exactly that, pounding out those little 25 and 50-grain bullets is an exercise in frustration not to be repeated. I do still use inertia for cast bullets since the lead seems to 'slip' out of the case easier than copper-jacketed anyway.
 
Could it be from the anvil being a bit loose and mashing the primer compound?
Another thought. If the priming compound had an area that wasn't thoroughly mixed before loading into the primer cups, could the resulting primer ignite with a strong whack?
That would be my best guess also loose anvil, I have removed live primers from many cases and have had a few loose anvils show up in the catcher

Obviously caused by handling, not from the manufacturing
 
Agree completely, but I switched to collets for the opposite reason

Maybe I misled; I have and use both types, depending on what needs to be pulled. Rifle generally gets collet-pulled. Collet puller won't work on the 200gn SWC 45 ammo, nor the pure wadcutter 32SWL and 38Spl that I load for pistol, so those get hammered.
 
I started with a Lee hand loader back in the 60's and had more than a few detonate loading .30-30 with that priming rod and a hammer.
Are you talking about seating primers?
Not familiar with that Lee seating tool. Do you have a pic?
I thought this post was about pulling bullets with an inertia hammer. But a seating tool involving a rod and hammer caught my attention.
 
Are you talking about seating primers?
Not familiar with that Lee seating tool. Do you have a pic?
I thought this post was about pulling bullets with an inertia hammer. But a seating tool involving a rod and hammer caught my attention.
It was a comment on primer detonation, not neccesarily pulling bullets. I well know what he's talking about. Those old things used to scare the wife quite often...as well as myself!
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I know these types of bullet pullers have been used tens of thousands of times without issue, but I've never liked the idea of using one. I do use a collet puller in my rockchucker.
 
It was a comment on primer detonation, not neccesarily pulling bullets. I well know what he's talking about. Those old things used to scare the wife quite often...as well as myself!
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The Lee loader was my first reload outfit back in mid 60's. Never had any incidents- just couldn't figure out why the cases would start getting hard to chamber so fast. I upgraded to a Rockchucker with my first paycheck after graduation. It's been a long learning process. I am surprised they still make them.
 
I well know what he's talking about
And I didn’t, therefore my question. Do I apologize for not knowing? Not a chance.
But thanks for the picture and I can say I never saw that, and I’ve been reloading since 1964. Then again there’s many things I never saw and and quite a few I wish I never had.
 
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And I didn’t, therefore my question. Do I apologize for not knowing? Not a chance.
But thanks for the picture and I can say I never saw that, and I’ve been reloading since 1964. Then again there’s many things I never saw and and quite a few I wish I never had.
Smooth your feathers. My comment was not meant as an attack but to reflect that I had used several versions and calibers of those loaders with the accompanying occasional discharge of primers. Started in '68 with .303 British and added as my centerfires expanded until I had a place of my own to actually set up a press.
 
As the title suggests.. finally had this happen after years of using a Hammer style bullet puller.
Basic scenario was this - Pulling bullets form a loaded lot that was blowing primers due to too many reloads and lack of tension in the primer pockets. Idea was to save the powder from them at very least, as the rest was to be discarded.

Apparently with each whack, the tool was also causing the primer to creep out of the pocket until it became proud...

The primer ignited inside the tool, and it was only fact that it had bounced out of the pocket enough not to ignite the powder column that prevented parts of the tool and round from turning into a flying disaster. It basically launched itself out of the pocket, and through the top of the tool.

Hopefully this warning helps some folks, the 2 dollars worth of components you are trying to salvage isn't worth your eyesight or injury.
Hope this will save someone injury, or at very least a clean pair of shorts.
 
I have pulled thousands of bullets from corrosive military ammo using an inertia puller. I think the trick is to loosen the bullet first. I discovered this tool at Harbor Freight and I use it to lightly rock the bullet in the case before whacking the case with the inertia puller. Works like a charm!

 

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