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GUN SHOOTS ZEROS VS WINDFLAGS

you Definitely have to do both get a gun in tune to the .1s and keep it there
then not make any mistakes as well as learn when to start your group and reading your flags

One of the toughest things is to stay in tune for the afternoon matches.
Things change the wind picks up and the rifle just needs something different to give you all it can
You have to shoot enough to be able to recognize this before not after it’s to late
 
you Definitely have to do both get a gun in tune to the .1s and keep it there
then not make any mistakes as well as learn when to start your group and reading your flags

One of the toughest things is to stay in tune for the afternoon matches.
Things change the wind picks up and the rifle just needs something different to give you all it can
You have to shoot enough to be able to recognize this before not after it’s to late
The toughest thing for me way back was learning when to start and more importantly when to stop. That was very hard when 15 people on each side of you is blasting away and you know better than to start in a particular condition. Ive shot some awful groups only to remove my bolt and all flags stop
 
The toughest thing for me way back was learning when to start and more importantly when to stop. That was very hard when 15 people on each side of you is blasting away and you know better than to start in a particular condition. Ive shot some awful groups only to remove my bolt and all flags stop
My brakes are getting a little better. LOL
Its hard to stop when 4 are in a hole
but usually the condition not there for #5
 
Speaking of different conditions, can you all explain a mirage to me. Doc from Purdue, and Cameron Z taught John about that last year at the mentor match, but I don't understand when John tries to explain to me. However, it's not uncommon for me & him to speak different languages, I'm told when he hits 30 or so he will again speak my language.
 
The toughest thing for me way back was learning when to start and more importantly when to stop. That was very hard when 15 people on each side of you is blasting away and you know better than to start in a particular condition. Ive shot some awful groups only to remove my bolt and all flags stop
Never forget these 2 items when you go to the line......#1 Patience....#2 Clock. Equally important if you know what you want and it is there....start shooting. It may never come back. You should know what your looking for when you sit down. Dusty brought up a good point on the off side micro port. It will make you go when you should be on stop.
 
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Speaking of different conditions, can you all explain a mirage to me. Doc from Purdue, and Cameron Z taught John about that last year at the mentor match, but I don't understand when John tries to explain to me. However, it's not uncommon for me & him to speak different languages, I'm told when he hits 30 or so he will again speak my language.
It's bending of light. The best way I know to describe it is that the target is not wear it looks like it is or it's moving.
 
Speaking of different conditions, can you all explain a mirage to me. Doc from Purdue, and Cameron Z taught John about that last year at the mentor match, but I don't understand when John tries to explain to me. However, it's not uncommon for me & him to speak different languages, I'm told when he hits 30 or so he will again speak my language.
Think of it as steam coming off a pot of boiling water.
If there's no wind it rises straight up.
Blow accross it lightly, and you'll see the steam move with the wind.

Beware reading just flags, or just mirage.
I've had flags going one way, the mirage going the other.

WAG game at that point.
 
Lets face it Jeff, your better at reading the wind than i am.
By a large degree!
Also while you spend more time shooting matches, i'm more focused on the hunting aspect of shooting.
Doesn't mean i don't like small groups! Can drive a person insane chasing them!

Personally, i like shooting in windy conditions. (The cold, snow, freezing rain aren't fun, but educational on their own)

Either match or hunting, seldom is the wind perfect.

Hence why you'll find me at the range with 15mph gusting 30 winds.
Didn't you question me about bullets I use in my hunting rifle? You gave me information on Match bullets and how someone was holding his own against 6br shooters. Where wind come into picture? Your giving advise to someone that doesn't shoot match with his hunting rifle. If you like shooting in the wind why shoot match.
 
Speaking of different conditions, can you all explain a mirage to me. Doc from Purdue, and Cameron Z taught John about that last year at the mentor match, but I don't understand when John tries to explain to me. However, it's not uncommon for me & him to speak different languages, I'm told when he hits 30 or so he will again speak my language.
My youngest Son was shooting his first ever BR match at the Tomball Gun Club. It used to be famous for it's mirage. He shot 2 very small groups at 200yds and I asked him how. He said,"Dad, the air looks like a river and I watched the flow and shot when the water looked the same".
 
The best Benchrest Shooter in the World cannot shoot .150 Aggs with a .250 rifle.

A rather Mediocre Benchrest Shooter can shoot a .150 agg with a .150 rifle.

I spend a lot of time at my local Gun Club. I don’t care what the wind is doing on any given day because I always shoot over my flags.

My definition of a well tuned combination, (which includes the shooter), is……”the only thing that will keep a bullet from taking the exact same path as the one before is the conditions you are shooting in too”.
 
I think the guys and gals that win consistently do both. They know how to read wind and spend the time to make a rifle shoot to its full potential. How could you win doing only one side of it when Tony is doing both?
 
I look at it the same way as when I was in racing. Almost everyone had the same equipment. Some were only good at qualifying, some were good at racing, and then some werent really good at any of it. The best of the best always figured it out, and were never really lost no matter what the track conditions or weather was doing. Some couldn't figure it out if you let them run at the same track all week.

Shooting is the same way. Anyone with the money can buy the equipment, but the guy who can shoot in any condition is going to finish near the top more often than not.
 
Didn't you question me about bullets I use in my hunting rifle? You gave me information on Match bullets and how someone was holding his own against 6br shooters. Where wind come into picture? Your giving advise to someone that doesn't shoot match with his hunting rifle. If you like shooting in the wind why shoot match.
You don't hunt in the wind?
 

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