Got 2 Shots Of Moderna & Tested Positive Today

[drop_point]

OP and anyone else that has it, may you get well soon.

I’m still not “vaxed”
Reading the fine print in thePfizer and Moderna I am unable to take either one.

I have psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis, which I take Humira for.
Foot notes on both say no go.

I went to my doctor on Tuesday because I messed up my left Achilles’ tendon and he is pushing me to take the vaccine. When i told him of what I read he said he would research it and get back to me on which ones are safe for me to take.
Almost 4 full business days and still no answer.

what chaps my ass hard is that it is technically not even a vaccine at all.
Yet that is all everyone keeps referring it as.
it is a shot at best just like the flu shot which by the way messes both my brother and I up when we get them.
my last flu shot was 2008.
last time I had the flu and bronchitis was also 2008.

as far as the companies being free from any liabilities if you should have a reaction to the COVID cocktail.
should that now be lifted and they be held liable seeing as how the golden FDA approval has been rubber stamped ?

IF you are inclined, you could check into the J&J vaccine.

 

[drop_point]

Can you believe the CDC ? Just read that the Teachers Union NEA, coordinated the rules for schools opening up with the CDC. Who can you trust???

No, the CDC is not to be trusted. They are political.

It should have been blatantly obvious when they decided that government should deny property owners of their property because they rented it out.

 

[Bojo]

IF you are inclined, you could check into the J&J vaccine.

I’m patiently waiting for my dr I get back to me for both j&j and AstraZeneca.
I’m really not hip to the idea of taking any of them. Other than seasonal allergies and poison ivy my only issues are psoriasis and the fact that I’m a fat ass.
What I can say for 100 percent sure is that if I’m forced to take any of them in order to keep my job and I have bad side effects I’ll go nucking futs.

 

[Texas10]

I don't think China will be publishing the true numbers of Covid cases they have. Like everything in China - all is controlled. if they are embarrassed by the numbers, they just keep it hidden.

As I recall, same thing happened here. White House ordered hospitals to bypass CDC in Covid reporting and instead report directly to HHS. Covid rates which were on a dramatic rise averaging 63,000 new cases a day on July 15th, the order date, suddenly plateaued and dropped to a low of 39,000 cases on Sept. 11. The drop was temporary though as cases rapidly escalated and hit a high of over 300,000 new cases a day on Jan 8th. That's nearly one tenth of one percent of the US population catching Covid in a single day, and that's only the reported cases. Remember, back then you could only get tested if you presented with a full set of symptoms. If you were mildly symptomatic or showed no symptoms you were turned away. As the President said on June 15th, "if you stop testing right now, we'd have very few cases, if any".

Who needs masks and vaccines or economic shutdowns when we can just manipulate the numbers?

I'm referring to China, of course.

 

[drop_point]

I’m patiently waiting for my dr I get back to me for both j&j and AstraZeneca.
I’m really not hip to the idea of taking any of them. Other than seasonal allergies and poison ivy my only issues are psoriasis and the fact that I’m a fat ass.
What I can say for 100 percent sure is that if I’m forced to take any of them in order to keep my job and I have bad side effects I’ll go nucking futs.

I definitely understand your concerns. Nothing good comes from these unconstitutional mandates. Obesity is one of the biggest risk factors for COVID, and should one need a vent, it is the biggest barrier to liberation.

 

[SGK]

But I do take Zinc and Vitamin D every day.

Supposedly good for your testosterone (add in ashwagandha) but the virus ain't gonna blink in the face of them

 

[Bocephus]

Well, vaxx or no vaxx, here is Billy Bob Gates explaining his take on the problem and proposing his solution. If you don’t have 3min, just be sure to catch the 2:40 mark where he states we CAN use vaccines to control the world population.

 

[Bocephus]

And a few of us old-timers also remember this fiasco.
Sounded really familiar right from the start. The biggest differences now seem to be the complete complicity of the media and the “immunity” from liability litigation big pharma presently enjoys.

 

[Bocephus]

You are 27 times better protected by natural antibodies(you had COVID and recovered) then any of the synthetic vaccines. I hate to keep calling them vaccines, they are really shots that MAY reduce the symptom intensity. They are not even 75% effective preventing getting infected with the virus. And why did both Harris and Biden say "they would NEVER take a Trump presidency developed vaccine" then DEMAND EVERYONE to get vaccinated. I keep wondering if the post turtle president REALLY wants to protect U.S. citizens, why would you allow unvaccinated and infected individuals into the country and then DISPERSE all around the country. And that includes the measles virus now.

And no red flag here!

No, President Biden's vaccine mandate for federal workers does not apply to members of Congress and their staff

The president cannot impose a vaccine mandate on Congress via executive order or in an agency or department regulation, according to the Congressional Institute.

www.verifythis.com

 

[D Coots]

And no red flag here!

No, President Biden's vaccine mandate for federal workers does not apply to members of Congress and their staff

The president cannot impose a vaccine mandate on Congress via executive order or in an agency or department regulation, according to the Congressional Institute.

www.verifythis.com

Just saw this.

When did these people start following the Constitution.....nobody told me...............

 

[JLT]

That’s not correct. The COVID vaccines are highly protective against infection as well. It is true that there are still breakthrough infections, but they are far less likely to happen, and when they do, people don’t get nearly as sick.

I think this myth is out there because the original trials evaluating the vaccines here didn’t look specifically at transmission, and so for a while it wasn’t known for sure whether they could allow asymptomatic transmission. But since then, it’s become clear that is also greatly reduced by vaccination.

edit: here is a great graph from the latest data set from the CDC that came out yesterday. You can indeed see a very small uptick in infection among the vaccinated as Delta has become prevalent, but still far fewer than the unvaccinated, and in the other two panels you see that for hospitalization and death there is no decrease in vaccine efficacy.
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This runs counter to the data from Israel. Israel has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world and their data has been sounding the alarm of rapidly waning effectiveness for some time. The data from the CDC is not trustworthy, as the definitions at the data element-level have changed several times without retrospective adjustment. Note the liberal use of referential superscripts in the image posted.

I have been following the COVID-related data environment from the very beginning. One needs to be very rigorous when trying to untangle this and it often requires more than a bit of research into processes underlying what may appear to be elemental data. Testing protocols and interpretations have been fluid, for example, and standardization to a common base can be very difficult, if possible at all. Apples ain't oranges.

Samuel Clemens famously paraphrased Benjamin Disraeli - 'There are lies, damnable lies and statistics.' These are words to the wise these days.

 

[dbduff]

That’s not correct. The COVID vaccines are highly protective against infection as well. It is true that there are still breakthrough infections, but they are far less likely to happen, and when they do, people don’t get nearly as sick.

I think this myth is out there because the original trials evaluating the vaccines here didn’t look specifically at transmission, and so for a while it wasn’t known for sure whether they could allow asymptomatic transmission. But since then, it’s become clear that is also greatly reduced by vaccination.

edit: here is a great graph from the latest data set from the CDC that came out yesterday. You can indeed see a very small uptick in infection among the vaccinated as Delta has become prevalent, but still far fewer than the unvaccinated, and in the other two panels you see that for hospitalization and death there is no decrease in vaccine efficacy.
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Thanks for sharing accurate information. We all need it to make rational decisions about our health and those we come in contact with. Get vaccinated, please.

 

[Gina1]

The numbers don't lie. Here in southern Oregon our vaccination rate is about 50/50. Our hospitals are are packed with COVID-19 cases. 94%un-vaccinated. You can justify what ever way you want for not taking the shot, but the odds are not in your favor, same for your children, your parents, your friends.

 

[JLT]

The numbers don't lie. Here in southern Oregon our vaccination rate is about 50/50. Our hospitals are are packed with COVID-19 cases. 94%un-vaccinated. You can justify what ever way you want for not taking the shot, but the odds are not in your favor, same for your children, your parents, your friends.

Numbers don't lie, true, but how one arrives at those numbers can take all kinds of unsavory turns. Here's a fact - When Delta started dominating the news cycles, there was an early focus on packaging the dynamics as 'a pandemic of the unvaccinated'. This was soon followed by the often-repeated '95% of the hospitalizations and cases are unvaccinated'. OK, so numbers don't lie - I'm sure the arithmetic was correct. Little number divided by the big number gives you the percentage. Here's where the point made should be suspect - The 95% number was arrived at by going all they way back to the beginning of COVID record keeping (Q1 2020), defining both the numerator and the denominator based on the categorical sums since from that time to the present and then doing the division. The vaccination rate until the first quarter of 2021 was zero. I'm not saying this is insidious, but I am asserting that the statistic used in the full context of circumstances is, to say the very least, poorly suited to these very same circumstances. Akin to using last year's weather report for Sep. 17-19 for this week's LA Long Range Championship. That might be accurate, but only by happenstance.

I'll bet a fine steak dinner that a reasonably careful audit of that number would reveal a thing or two that would make most people say 'Hmmmmmm....'

 

[potatojudge]

Numbers don't lie, true, but how one arrives at those numbers can take all kinds of unsavory turns. Here's a fact - When Delta started dominating the news cycles, there was an early focus on packaging the dynamics as 'a pandemic of the unvaccinated'. This was soon followed by the often-repeated '95% of the hospitalizations and cases are unvaccinated'. OK, so numbers don't lie - I'm sure the arithmetic was correct. Little number divided by the big number gives you the percentage. Here's where the point made should be suspect - The 95% number was arrived at by going all they way back to the beginning of COVID record keeping (Q1 2020), defining both the numerator and the denominator based on the categorical sums since from that time to the present and then doing the division. The vaccination rate until the first quarter of 2021 was zero. I'm not saying this is insidious, but I am asserting that the statistic used in the full context of circumstances is, to say the very least, poorly suited to these very same circumstances. Akin to using last year's weather report for Sep. 17-19 for this week's LA Long Range Championship. That might be accurate, but only by happenstance.

I'll bet a fine steak dinner that a reasonably careful audit of that number would reveal a thing or two that would make most people say 'Hmmmmmm....'

My hospital as of this week. These numbers are consistent with what I’ve seen admitting COVID patients to my service.
The magnitude of difference in hospitalization is so great it’s dead obvious to anyone who isn’t delusional and fixed in their dogma.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

My hospital as of this week. These numbers are consistent with what I’ve seen admitting COVID patients to my service.
The magnitude of difference in hospitalization is so great it’s dead obvious to anyone who isn’t delusional and fixed in their dogma.

There are a lot of fine folks not fixed in their dogma, but are very conscious in finding the truth and basing all facts towards to taking the vaccine or not. Once again you are degrading your neighbors by calling them delusional.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Get well Rick!!