GINEX in your 'good' brass

[Scott-ak]

thinking about ordering 10-20k and have read lots of reviews. Most are pretty old and consistent. They are larger than the other brands but generally work fine. So my question, would you use them in your Lapua brass?
The other option is CCI at a cost of 150$/5k more. Note I also have to pay the boat ride and hazmat to get any of them shipped here.

 

[One Eye Pete]

I use them in my 284 Win Lapua Brass. Normally for F class matches I use CCI BR 2 s but the Ginex shoot about the same. I have about 2k BR 2s left. When they are gone I don't think that I will pay the $150+ / 1k for the BR 2s so I will switch to the Ginex. I have 4K+ of the Ginex left and I use a RCBS bench mounted priming tool. It seats them with no problem.

 

[watercam]

I ran them through my .308 Palma loads with Lapua brass for about a year. They always went "bang" but with the Lapua tight pockets it was a pain to get them pressed into the primer pockets. There was always some distortion of the primer shape once they were in. In the end I had enough and gave them up to the Oregon State Explosives Unit to do with as they pleased.

 

[358WCF]

I got a sleeve of these from Graf's when they were blowing them out a few years back. Ginex Large Rifle NATO spec primers (part # UN 0044) measure .211" O.D. with my trusty dial calipers. Everything else I just eyeballed real quick is around .210" except for some older RP 9 1/2 which were .209+". According to my mark II reader enhanced eyeball, older nickle plated WLRs are about a 1/2 of a blond CH bigger than .211" but seat with no real problem in most of my "good" brass.

With (-) pin gauges, the primer pockets in most of my brass measure from .209--.210" new to .211" used to .212" abused. Some Peterson 280 brass gauges .208" new & .209" fired (very snug in both cases.) I just got some new Alpha brass that flattened 210Ms when seating them. It gauges a snug .208" brand new. Will have to try some of the nickled WLRs to see if they go in.

The older WLRs do fit snugly in Lapua brass which gauges .209" nicely on fired & .209" very snug on new, while I just cant make myself push that hard on the RCBS bench primer handle to seat the GINEX in this brass. The GINEX stuff seats hard in everything... even the used .211" pockets.

I'm not sure that size has everything (or anything) to do with their hard seating as the slightly larger nickled WLR seat just fine in brass that the GINEX seat tightly in. Thinking the NATO spec cup thickness may be more of a culprit, but have no desire or method to test the theory.

Note: The .212" pockets haven't been "saved" by using the "oversize" GINEX primers... they only stay in these cases with a wing & a prayer like the other brands.

In everything I've tried them in the GINEX have fired every time even when flattened what I would call excessively during seating. They also seem to burn well in everything so far, as there have been no odd ES or SD spikes noticed. Group size may actually be the same or better, but haven't used GINEX enough to make an even 1/2-way factual statement about this.

While they work well enough in fired WW, RP, Fed., or Hornady brass, I probably wont even try using them in Peterson, Lapua, or Alpha brass, unless the proverbial SHTF & there's a need for drastic measures. They sit on the shelf as backup, & that's not a bad thing.

 

[Woofie]

Yes, as I have posted previously, Ginex LR primers are a tad larger. https://www.ginex.com.ba/products/5,5-3-N for Large rifle.pdf (0.2129921")
But they work. In 300WM with IMR7828SSC the LR magnum version handily bests CCI LRM in minimum ES. I have found this characteristic in other cartridges and with other Ginex LR and SR primers.
I earnestly suggest if you don't like them, don't buy them. All the more for me

 

[Scott-ak]

thanx for the replys. Pretty consistent with all the older reports I'd found, that is all sizes measure larger than the other brands and some folks have trouble seating. I'm about out of CCI450s and will have to start using 400s or try some of the ginex.

 

[Scott-ak]

are a tad larger. (0.2129921")

Did they say what temperature that measurement was taken at?

 

[jelenko]

thanx for the replys. Pretty consistent with all the older reports I'd found, that is all sizes measure larger than the other brands and some folks have trouble seating. I'm about out of CCI450s and will have to start using 400s or try some of the ginex.

CCI 450's have regularly been in stock at Natchez and Midway and ocassionaly at Powder Valley and Mid South. Target Sports has them now but at $600/5K.

 

[Scott-ak]

CCI 450's have regularly been in stock at Natchez and Midway and ocassionaly at Powder Valley and Mid South. Target Sports has them now but at $600/5K.

target sports it took me a month to get them to accept my tax exempt status and 600 per 5k is why I'm looking for another option. It costs me about another 200 per 10k for the ride

 

[divingin]

I have not shot their rifle primers. I did buy Ginex small pistol primers a few months ago at just shy of $600/5k. A couple of weeks ago, a buddy bought 5k at about $375 (Midsouth, I think.)

They work fine, and I haven't noticed any real difference in seating force. As I said, though, these are pistol primers, not rifle,