Full Sizing - Lube
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BoydAllen
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The die should not do that. I would use some sort of copper solvent on the stripped down die, until no more color came out, and then I would wrap a patch around an old brush, apply a goodly amount of Iosso to the patch, chuck it into a cordless drill, and spin it in the neck of the die for about 15 seconds, turning the die slowly as I went. After that I would thoroughly clean the die, and apply some of that one shot to the interior, and let it dry. Sorry about the tangent. If the problem returns, I would tell them it is time for a replacement die.
Forum Boss, what about contamination of your powder with the Ballistol? I currently use Hornady One Shot to quickly lube the hundreds of cases I need to do every week. I'd like to try using the Ballistol in place of One Shot, but I'm afraid it will contaminate the powder.
Thoughts?
PS. IMHO Imperial wax is the best but slow. Hornady One Shot works well so long as you don't get too stingy with how much you apply.
Thoughts?
PS. IMHO Imperial wax is the best but slow. Hornady One Shot works well so long as you don't get too stingy with how much you apply.
Jay Christopherson
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Lee Resizing Lube. Water soluble and a tiny amount goes a long way. I coat my fingers with a dab and roll the case. I can get about a dozen cases for a pea size dab of lube and it takes me maybe 5 minutes to coat 50 cases. Wipes right off. Dunno if it cleans carbon like Ballistol does, but then again, I don't need it to since my cases are cleaned by that point anyhow.
I've always been thinking of trying Imperial wax or one of the other "new fangled" lubes, but I am waiting until I finish up the batch of lube I mixed up for my first lube pad (an un-inked inpad from the office supply store) in 1970. 2/3 10w30 motor oil and 1/3 STP, mixed to fill a 16 oz container. Still have the same lube pad, and haven't finished that first batch yet. :
Pluses: it works fine (we use microfine mica or microfine graphite for inside the case necks if we're using an expander). Minuses: it requires a bit of effort to wipe off after sizing; it will cause hydraulic dents in the shoulder area if you over lube the neck.
We're a creature of habit, but when we finish that first batch of homebrew lube, we will try some of the choices mentioned above.
Pluses: it works fine (we use microfine mica or microfine graphite for inside the case necks if we're using an expander). Minuses: it requires a bit of effort to wipe off after sizing; it will cause hydraulic dents in the shoulder area if you over lube the neck.
We're a creature of habit, but when we finish that first batch of homebrew lube, we will try some of the choices mentioned above.
Forum Boss
Administrator
DennisH said:
Too thin for lubing bolt lugs etc. It is good for cleaning handguns, and a quick Wipe-down of a rifle. I think it is better than WD40 as a rust preventative, but nowhere near as good at Eezox or Corrosion X.
I do use it to wipe down dies, the top of presses and the like. The Black Powder guys use it a lot for bore cleaning in their guns because it emulsifies in water. But in a centerfire I think the main use is a thin slippery case lube that cleans the carbon off your necks as you lube the cases. It's not gooey like the older RCBS lube, it's not chalky like the Lee Lube, and it's not tacky like One Shot (I've tried them all). It is just a thin slippery sheen. I think the active ingredient is simply mineral oil.
"Contents: Ballistol contains medicinal grade mineral oil, alkaline salts of oleic acid, several alcohols, Benzyl Acetate and an oil from vegetal seeds. The mineral oil is unchlorinated and conforms to the specifications of US Pharmacopeia XX. "
Ballistol MSDS: http://www.baileysonline.com/msds_sheets/PDFs/ballistol.PDF
You still need Die Wax for the hard case-forming jobs, and you still need a good grease for your bolt lugs and camming area on the action.
I have used both Dillon and RCBS but each leave a tacky residue. I have switched to Frog Lube. This is the same stuff I use to clean my weapon with. You can find it online
Dillon has been very good for me.
Depart123
The Hornady Unique paste in the white tub, is nothing more than the same mink oil used to waterproof your boots. I have been using the KIWI brand mink oil for about 20 years now to resize my precision cartridges.
For bulk 223 I use Dillon case lube. As with all of the sprays, you need to let it sit long enough for the carrier solvents to evaporate or you will stick brass in the die.
Imperial Sizing wax is a mixture of parafin, beeswax, and lanolin. It works great, but so does straight bees wax or lanolin either one.
For bulk 223 I use Dillon case lube. As with all of the sprays, you need to let it sit long enough for the carrier solvents to evaporate or you will stick brass in the die.
Imperial Sizing wax is a mixture of parafin, beeswax, and lanolin. It works great, but so does straight bees wax or lanolin either one.
jepp2
Gold $$ Contributor
I used to have that happen occasionally in the past. And yes, it was when I was rolling the cases on a pad where the neck exterior didn't get lubed. All I did to correct it was polish the interior of the die with Flitz. It isn't abrasive enough to change dimensions, and it quickly removed the brass particles. It also reduces sizing effort.
Jay Christopherson said:
+1 on the Lee Lube. If you want to do a lot if cases in a short time, just squeeze a small dollop into a plastic container or a zip loc bag. Add the cases and shake the container/bag for a minute or so. All the cases will be lubed and ready to re-size. You can experiment with the amount. You will most likely use a bit more than needed at first. I will usually do 25 or so at a time this way. This is as fast as spraying without having to wait for the carrier to off-gas and neater too as no over-spray.
+1 on the Lee Lube. If you want to do a lot if cases in a short time, just squeeze a small dollop into a plastic container or a zip loc bag. Add the cases and shake the container/bag for a minute or so. All the cases will be lubed and ready to re-size. You can experiment with the amount. You will most likely use a bit more than needed at first. I will usually do 25 or so at a time this way. This is as fast as spraying without having to wait for the carrier to off-gas and neater too as no over-spray.
ballisticdaddy
Silver $$ Contributor
99% isopropyl alchohol and liquid lanolin (10:1 ratio) has worked the best for me. Spray all cases in a plastic tray and roll them around for a minute or two until the alchohol evaporates and then you have a very fine evenly spread lubricant that is all natural.
Longtrain
Gold $$ Contributor
When I shot XTC and had LOTS of 223's to do, I used Hornady One-Shot, dumped a bunch in a small plastic bucket, sprayed, shook them up sprayed again, let them dry a bit and had at it...Now I only shoot prone, so it's one at a time using the best there is...Imperial Sizing Wax.
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