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Front rest recommendations

Too many stress on the necessity to have "the best"! Get a rest in your budget. Use it now, and find somewhere to shoot F-Class as soon as you can. Take it to the F-Class matches and use it there. You don't have to buy a SEB to learn the game. When you decide the rest is holding you back, then you can figure out how to upgrade. I started shooting in F Open this year and I am shooting off a Harris bipod. Everyone else is shooting off a high end rest. Am I at a disadvantage? Maybe, but right now I am only trying to improve my score from match to match. Since you will be just starting in competition as well I believe that is the best strategy. Still, I finish in the middle of the pack. I plan to have a rest for next season, but I have a lot of irons in the fire right now so if I don't get one I will continue to shoot off the bipod. The "Buy once, cry once" mantra is for those who either have the necessary discretionary income or who don't have to balance their hobby expenses with family needs. I see nothing wrong with buying within your budget now and saving for an upgrade for later if you decide it is necessary.

As an aside, where I shoot we have a sea breeze first thing in the morning that changes to a land breeze later in the day. There will be times during a match when you will see wind flags flying in 4 different directions. I have been told by the match director that there are some good shooters in the area that will not come to this match because of the difficult winds. I know that monitoring the changing wind is my major issue, so just how much is the bipod holding me back compared to the rests used by the others?

And finally, fwiw, shooting and competition is supposed to be fun! Just go have fun with whatever equipment you have. When your scores stop improving then it may be time for better equipment. By this time, you will have a better idea of what you want in your equipment. Equipment can be bought but skills have to be learned. Until your skill level is such that your scores are substantially better shooting off an $850+ rest than a $200 rest then the expensive rest is just bling.
 
Thanks all. While I could, I don't think dropping close to a grand (or more?) for a JJ or Neo makes sense for me right now. I think I will go with the Cowan as it seems it is a quality product. Is it the be-all and end-all? No. But it seems like it is well made and fit for purpose. The Sebs are very cool but I am far from needing 'top competitor' kit right now. (I would build a dedicated F-class rifle first.) I just don't want to buy something that ends up in the junk pile after 6 months of frustrating use. Tell me now if this may well be the case with the Cowan, but it seems not. If I decide to sell it because I am becoming very serious about competition then that's another thing. Hopefully then I will be selling a respected and quality product that's been well looked after.
 
If you shoot mostly FClass a joystick is he ticket. You can be behind your rifle looking through your scope and make your adjustments. You don't have to reach up and make an adjustment and then get behind it to check your adjustment and shoot.
 
So....after much mulling I went for a Bald Eagle base and Shadetree top. Still need to get a bag. Do those that have this combo just cut the rear spike screw? I think I'd still like some spike (and the ability to retract it) but clearly there isn't a need for significant adjustment there.
 
So....after much mulling I went for a Bald Eagle base and Shadetree top. Still need to get a bag. Do those that have this combo just cut the rear spike screw? I think I'd still like some spike (and the ability to retract it) but clearly there isn't a need for significant adjustment there.


Sir, you have your rough vertical adjustment withe the Bald Eagle base rack and pinion and the marineer wheel. Just put a set screw in the rear with a sharpened tip. You don't want anything in the way of the joystick.
 
Hi Butch. Do you know the thread? I was thinking a set screw would be a bit of a pain in that I'd have to carry a hex key around to extend it/retract it (and sharpen the point on the screw albeit I've seen cone point ones). I bought the F-class feet for the base and so need a decent amount of length to be able to thread those on. I'd been thinking about simply taking a hacksaw to the rear spike and cutting the top of it off (leaving just a 1/4" of the plastic top)!

* My interest in retracting it is not for height adjustment but merely for ease of transportation/storage - so I don't inadvertently spike a hole in something.
 
I have a Butch Lambert top on an old Bad Eagle that I made a 1/2" steel plate to increase the weight. To say I am happy with my joystick rest would be an understatement.
 
So I bought an Edgewood front bag. (Since it needed to be a custom width, I ordered the tall ears.) How much sand do you guys stuff in these? If I pack it very tightly the bag is almost an inch and a quarter tall at the base where the stock rests and the fore-end stop of the Shadetree will have to be elevated to the absolute limit to be effective if it is at all. So pack it hard or just comfy?
 
So I bought an Edgewood front bag. (Since it needed to be a custom width, I ordered the tall ears.) How much sand do you guys stuff in these? If I pack it very tightly the bag is almost an inch and a quarter tall at the base where the stock rests and the fore-end stop of the Shadetree will have to be elevated to the absolute limit to be effective if it is at all. So pack it hard or just comfy?


I want my front bag soft. I believe a hard front bag gives a little vertical.
 
Ok I've taken a bunch of the sand out. I think it is better. This chromite sand from Sinclair sits down pretty firmly though. I do wish that fore-end stop had a silicon or similar jacket...
 
Ok I've taken a bunch of the sand out. I think it is better. This chromite sand from Sinclair sits down pretty firmly though. I do wish that fore-end stop had a silicon or similar jacket...


Go to Home Depot and buy 2" of 3/8" surgical tubing and slide it on.
 
Nice rest, a bit past my budget
It was a stretch on my budget too, but after 3 years of owning it, could not be happier. Don't leave yourself wanting
 
Howdy

Looking for a very good quality front rest that won't leave me wishing I'd bought a better model shortly thereafter. I don't shoot competition yet. Were I to do so it would more likely be F class than Benchrest. I'm principally focused on something for load development and fun but which would hold me in good stead if I went further. Are the Bald Eagle http://www.grizzly.com/products/Bald-Eagle-Triangle-Windage-Rest-Cast-Iron/BE1153 still recommended? What about Joe Cowan's? Or should I focus on Sinclair Benchrest Varmint?

TIA

Steve
SEB or Farley you won’t be disappointed, I started with a cheap Caldwell and worked my way to finally buying a Farley. I was told to buy the Farley or SEB straight up...wish I’d listened would of saved money and the Farley is a pleasure to use Varminting, FClass or BR..
 
SGK, there is no doubt the SEB, full size or mini are great machines and probably worth their cost. That said the Bald Eagle and Shadetree set up you have with the Edgewood bag is also a fine way to go. I have done the same system and it has not held me back at all. To lower the set screw on the back, first remove it, then saw the plastic top off. Next put the spike back in, put a correct diameter hole size washer, then lock washer, and finally nut on. That will lower the upward protrusion considerably. The rear screw will not really be adjustable but I find that not to be a problem. Now go have some fun. Favor center. Urbanriflemans suggestion of a heavy steel plate below is also a good idea if you want. With all of that you almost have the same system as a SEB.
 
I just cut the knob off the rear screw. I left enough of it to have something to grip between thumb and forefinger but cut enough off so that the Shadetree rod clears it at the lowest setting and minimal spike. Can still screw it down further. Job done. Now I have the bag fitted I’m looking forward to using it!
 
Ah - I actually have some here! Thanks. I may try clear Plastidip at some point. I only want to prevent little dings on one particular stock.


Guys, I bought Butch's Shadetree top to fit on a Bald Eagle base. Plus the Edgewood bag.
You can never go wrong with Butch's Shade Tree top! First Class.

Darrin
 
Im picking up a shadetree very soon, still contemplating getting on the list for a neo then my son and i will both have a joystick
 

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