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Federal ammo layoff

You can bet there are many collectors storing tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousand of match primers.
 
Most ammo and primers had taken a big jump in prices over the last 8 years.
I don't know why a lot of people decided to buy ammo at any price.
If they want my business and I shoot a lot they will have to really be serious about their pricing.
Ammo is way over prices 22 Rf is way way over priced, I refused to buy it at current prices,
It's time for a roll back. on component,s too.
 
Drop the price of 22LR and the machines would still run 24/7 for years. Seems to me there are still plenty of ways to make lots of money on ammo and components. With Trump as president the entire shooting industry has the ability to grow rather than the "hold on to your pants" gouging and hording.
 
Amanda Covington and Mark DeYoung were both quoted by the newspaper article. I wonder why they felt the need to layoff people when there are so many that haven't been able to buy Federal primers, many types of obsolete brass, short mag brass, 22 mags and 22 rimfires. Yet not once have I been asked "is there some thing we could make that you need and would be willing to buy?" I guess DeYoung and Covington must be graduates from some Ivy league school and know so much that they don't need to check and see how the market thinks. I think that all the firearms companies must this way to some extent. Otherwise why would Remington come out with a rifle with a triangular barrel. Now that I think about it went have we ever seen a questioner or poll on this site asking what we need?
 
Ask manufacturers why so many wholesalers and distributors have been canceling orders for many items. The crazy buying spree has ended.
 
Rustystud said:
I am at the point of Federal started producing enough Fed 215 GMM primers I would probably not buy any just for principal. I have replaced them with another brand and have not looked back.
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Same here, 2 or 3 years ago when there were no 205ms to be found I called them about when they might be available. They said at the time there were no near plans to make them because they were too busy with ammo. I asked about what the benchrest guys were to do who had used them for a long time and was given an answer in a round about way that they didn't care. Since then I have used no Federal products and don't plan to so maybe that attitude is catching up with them.
 
spladi said:
We don't see affordable .22 LR ammo on the shelves like we used to. I think that if it would return at old prices maybe all the ammo sales could be rejuvenated and the fun we all had blasting away all afternoon at cans etc. with our twenty two's could be enjoyed by young ones and inspire future hunters/shooters.
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My Gander mountain had close to 400-500 50 rd boxes of CCI Standard on display last week. Clerk said it comes in like that all the time now. They had other brands too, but mostly CCI stuff.
 
johnmyers said:
Same here, 2 or 3 years ago when there were no 205ms to be found I called them about when they might be available. They said at the time there were no near plans to make them because they were too busy with ammo. I asked about what the benchrest guys were to do who had used them for a long time and was given an answer in a round about way that they didn't care. Since then I have used no Federal products and don't plan to so maybe that attitude is catching up with them.
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Do you remember the shortage of 205M primers many years ago? Many of the long time BR shooters replaced them with the 205. They couldn't tell the difference on paper, but were so used to the match primer, that's what they wanted to use:rolleyes:
 
I haven't seen Fed.210 or fed.215 since the great black hope was elected the second time, I bought 10,000 of each and I'm still working on the ones I have sorted! If they would Just keep the prices down they would sure do a hell of a lot better sell in volume than raising prices. I seen a lot of gun shops go bye-bye for doing that its volume that makes it.

Joe Salt
 
Volume can't make up for no profit and profit potential can't make up for no sales.
A company will, or should, keep the profit as high as the level of sales allows. Businesses can't stay alive without enough profit to pay the bills and the personnel. Sales people are usually the highest paid because without them nothing else happens. Businesses are well advised to make and sell products that have the highest demand. BR primers are likely the lowest volume product made. I wonder what percentage of reloaders are serious target folks.
 
SheepDog said:
Volume can't make up for no profit and profit potential can't make up for no sales.
A company will, or should, keep the profit as high as the level of sales allows. Businesses can't stay alive without enough profit to pay the bills and the personnel. Sales people are usually the highest paid because without them nothing else happens. Businesses are well advised to make and sell products that have the highest demand. BR primers are likely the lowest volume product made. I wonder what percentage of reloaders are serious target folks.
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^^^^^^^^ What he said, and another angle to look at, too......Anybody bother to check to see how much the cost of the raw materials that make up a cartridge have risen over the past 8 yrs. or so? Consider the cost of all the added regulations miners and smelters have seen, not to mention the cost of transportation of the raw materials and the finished product. Does Federal and the others that make ammo/components provide benefits for their employees? I'd bet they do as they have more than 50 employees and either provide benefits or pay a fine for not providing. As Federal is a supplier to the Defense Dept., I'd bet they provide benefits,,,,, so how much has the cost of health care insurance risen, even if you are a large company? Not everything is made in China or India for pennies of what it costs to 'make it in the USA'. I remember when "Made in Japan" ment low quality along with low cost. The real 'gougers' of the last 8yrs were the retailers and some of the wholesalers that chose to do so. Many got into 'the business' in search of fast dollars. Real businesses are in business to make a profit,,,,, and if you're not (making a profit) why bother with the head aches of being in business? Operate a factory as a hobby?! I don't think so!
 
Sell half the products at twice the price and the manufacturer gains money in their pocket everywhere from purchasing to logistics to employees.
 
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