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Favorite 17cal cartridge?

Hey Don,
I sure enjoy seeing your caliber family photos! Thanks for posting!!

Don't see a .17Predator case in that pic?!? To rectify that, I'll throw one of mine in the mail, along with the Catbird and Norma Imp. 30 I already owe ya...

As for 'favorite' 17', the .17Predator is mine. Not as easy to make as a .17-204, for the same/more horsepower, but it allows a certain 'cool factor' for the effort...

Speaking of which, a friend of mine got a .17Predator reamer to re-barrel/clean up a .17Fireball that wasn't shooting. Turned out, they when too deep on the headspace, so...

In a pinch, instead of the .223, they used .204 brass as parent case. Man, he wound up with a demon on his hands! Got a 30gr GOLD up over 4500fps!!! And was shot thru two chronos, front to back, to confirm that unreal muzzle velocity. That proved way too much for the little Gold to handle for more than a couple hundred rounds, so he backed it off to the 4250fps range, which is still friggin' schmokin! Anyhoo, he named it the .17WCH "western coyote hunter"! If anyone cares to search on it...

Given my Predator has the high end covered, I'd like to someday have a little Ackley Hornet as a little brother. Or maybe one of those cool little suckers in Don's pic!

Fun topic! Everyone does need a cool little seventeen...
 
Hey Don,
I sure enjoy seeing your caliber family photos! Thanks for posting!!

Don't see a .17Predator case in that pic?!?...As for 'favorite' 17', the .17Predator is mine. Not as easy to make as a .17-204, for the same/more horsepower, but it allows a certain 'cool factor' for the effort...Speaking of which, a friend of mine...wound up with a demon on his hands! Got a 30gr GOLD up over 4500fps!!!...he named it the .17WCH "western coyote hunter"!...Fun topic! Everyone does need a cool little seventeen...

Thanks again Fredo. I didn't post all of my 17s. Here are a few more with some previous ones for comparisons. I do have the 17 Predator and 17WCH.

17s III.jpg
 
I'm with others. Lots of love for those .17's there fun to reload, even more fun to shoot,
If I could only have one .17 it would be the fireball...I've gotten great accuracy, speed and think it's just a cool efficient cartridge..can't go wrong
 
I think I've run into the 17 wildcat I'm going to pursue. The 17-220 Russian... What ya think?

Some more to make your head spin a little, since you mentioned the 220 Russian parent. Here are a few more with Russian and BR parents along with the Mach IV for comparison:

17s IV.jpg

Third from left is basically the 17-220 Russian you're considering. Fourth from the left is a 17PPC. And the 17LN (Little Nasty) is a PPC short .180". 17 Athena is a short .235" BR.
 
Some more to make your head spin a little, since you mentioned the 220 Russian parent. Here are a few more with Russian and BR parents along with the Mach IV for comparison:

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Third from left is basically the 17-220 Russian you're considering. Fourth from the left is a 17PPC. And the 17LN (Little Nasty) is a PPC short .180". 17 Athena is a short .235" BR.


Your killing me smalls!

I noticed ptg has the 17 Athena reamer also. The one thing I do wonder about the 17 Russian is how bad the case growth will be?

I really wish ptg would post the drawing along with the reamers. Some of those I can't find anywhere.
 
Some more to make your head spin a little, since you mentioned the 220 Russian parent. Here are a few more with Russian and BR parents along with the Mach IV for comparison:

View attachment 1039810

Third from left is basically the 17-220 Russian you're considering. Fourth from the left is a 17PPC. And the 17LN (Little Nasty) is a PPC short .180". 17 Athena is a short .235" BR.


That .17 Dasher is just NASTY!!!!!!

I can honestly say I`ve never ran across, or even thought of, that one.........:confused:

That .17 PPC IMP. looks SWEET.....:D:D:D;)

Now where are my 30gr. bullets:rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Always wanted a bigger 17 than the 17Rem. just never built one. Too many other projects came and went it seems. Love my 17 FB XP-100 pistol, and it was responsible for the demise of a bunch of furbearers over the years. Loved it mostly due to it's weight/portability as I can easily carry it many miles on the ranches I hunt. Couple of long shots it had to it's credit was a 500-yardish crow. A 350ish yard bobcat using a calcd. system with the 2.5 MOA plex reticle post tips for elevation/windage reference in the 2.5-8X Leupold pistol scope. Killed a 300ish-yd. coyote once using it, and my windage dope called for something like 1.2 plex post tip units. Was quite disconcerting aiming that far off for wind but it worked as calcd. One of my all-time favorite shots. 400-500 yd. prairie dogs was a kick too with it using the 6-18X Nikon Buckmasters mil-dot reticle recalcd. for subtensions at 18X.
 
Always wanted a bigger 17 than the 17Rem. just never built one. Too many other projects came and went it seems. Love my 17 FB XP-100 pistol, and it was responsible for the demise of a bunch of furbearers over the years. Loved it mostly due to it's weight/portability as I can easily carry it many miles on the ranches I hunt. Couple of long shots it had to it's credit was a 500-yardish crow. A 350ish yard bobcat using a calcd. system with the 2.5 MOA plex reticle post tips for elevation/windage reference in the 2.5-8X Leupold pistol scope. Killed a 300ish-yd. coyote once using it, and my windage dope called for something like 1.2 plex post tip units. Was quite disconcerting aiming that far off for wind but it worked as calcd. One of my all-time favorite shots. 400-500 yd. prairie dogs was a kick too with it using the 6-18X Nikon Buckmasters mil-dot reticle recalcd. for subtensions at 18X.
Steve,now that Montana Mize is making 30 Texas Golds on Todds die set,it is the perfect time to build a big 17.He has jackets and lead wire and they weigh exactly 30.0 grns.Been thinking about a 17-204:eek:...maybe.
Matt
 
Gotta throw a plug for the 17CCM. How can you not love a round that will push a 20gr slug @ 3200fps with less than 10 grains of powder ?
Shot a Mach IV for many years starting with a Kimber 84 but frankly they mostly fall down compared to the 20's, especially since Todd introduced the 20TAC.
You want to really have fun, try a .14.
 
Wow kriebles that is an amazing collection of 17's. Do you mind telling us your favorite?

I'm leaning to a 17 Practical no turn mainly because of brass prep and lost cases. Then have an upper and a bolt gun twisted alike using cheap .223 brass.

Thanks. Did I mention I hate turning necks?
 
Wow kriebles that is an amazing collection of 17's. Do you mind telling us your favorite?...

Thanks! I have over (90) different 17s in the collection. I believe my favorite will be in post #35 of this thread, the 17 Boomer Mag. It's pictured in the center as a die-formed case between the Gopher and Marmot). It will have a 40° shoulder once fire-formed. And, it should be extremely close in performance to the 17 Fireball and Mach IV with even less powder. I'll know more this spring/summer.
 
Steve,now that Montana Mize is making 30 Texas Golds on Todds die set,it is the perfect time to build a big 17.He has jackets and lead wire and they weigh exactly 30.0 grns.Been thinking about a 17-204:eek:...maybe.
Matt
Might start thinking about it Matt. Actually like to shoot that 17-204/30 grainers in an AR.
 
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I agree!

I tend to shoot past 300Y a lot so the smallest 17's, like the 17AH don't work for me so well. Man, if I lived near a place that had those potguts or those small squirrels by the alfalfa fields it'd be totally different!!!

So I guess 17R since I've had three. But if I had to start from scratch and pick one it'd probably be a 17 fireball. That's just a great case size in 17 or 20.

I've got a brand new 17-6.5G reamer, form dies, and barrel, if someone reading this wants 25's going an estimated 4400 fps.
I believe that's the same thing as a 17 ppc
 

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