Favorite 17cal cartridge?

[kris bassett]

I've been looking at a 17 or 19 badger. Looks like a fun round, plus all I'd have to do is rebarrel my Ruger 17/22 as the rim diam is the same as the hornet.

 

[kris bassett]

I agree!

I tend to shoot past 300Y a lot so the smallest 17's, like the 17AH don't work for me so well. Man, if I lived near a place that had those potguts or those small squirrels by the alfalfa fields it'd be totally different!!!

So I guess 17R since I've had three. But if I had to start from scratch and pick one it'd probably be a 17 fireball. That's just a great case size in 17 or 20.

I've got a brand new 17-6.5G reamer, form dies, and barrel, if someone reading this wants 25's going an estimated 4400 fps.

My very first search was for a 17-6.5 Grendel to see if anyone had built one. I'm pretty sure I ran on to your post on another forum. I really wish I had the funds as that would be an awesome project!

Kris

 

[WyleWD]

My very first search was for a 17-6.5 Grendel to see if anyone had built one. I'm pretty sure I ran on to your post on another forum. I really wish I had the funds as that would be an awesome project!

Kris

I agree on that 17-6.5G project! That should be a dandy and can't wait to see how that one turns out.

I've got a 17 Rem that I REALLY like for chucks, crows, and coyotes. And have been impressed with the 17 M4's that fellow hunters have. If I was to do another 17 and I didn't have a BUNCH of 17 Rem brass laying around, I'd look hard and long at the 17 PPC since I have a steady supply of fired PPC brass. WD

 

[steve123]

I agree on that 17-6.5G project! That should be a dandy and can't wait to see how that one turns out.

I've got a 17 Rem that I REALLY like for chucks, crows, and coyotes. And have been impressed with the 17 M4's that fellow hunters have. If I was to do another 17 and I didn't have a BUNCH of 17 Rem brass laying around, I'd look hard and long at the 17 PPC since I have a steady supply of fired PPC brass. WD

I got all fired up from hanging out on a small caliber forum,lol. Then found a deal on a CZ527 in 17R. Then all the 17-6.5G AI showed up months later, the action I planned to use fell through, and I put it all on hold. Now here I am years later.

If I don't end up selling that stuff it'll be when I retire before I try it, which will be years.

 

[Tommie]

17 HMR.
Hands down.

 

[kris bassett]

By any chance, has anyone improved the fireball or mach IV with a 40° shoulder?

 

[Phil]

By any chance, has anyone improved the fireball or mach IV with a 40° shoulder?

If you don`t mind the custom reloading dies........why not?????

I`m sure someone has done the .17 fireball AI

 

[thekriebles]

By any chance, has anyone improved the fireball or mach IV with a 40° shoulder?

Here are a few shortened 40° varieties along with a 17-221 40° that have been done. The last one on the right is McPherson's & By Smalley's with a "Hemi"-type shoulder:

 

[snert]

it's got a Hemi!!!! I gotta have one. Till now I never wanted one!

 

[kris bassett]

Very nice! Does the Gopher have a hemi shoulder also?

Funny thing is I've been looking at doing a 6mm/35 SMc. I've been reading that even if the hemi shoulder doesn't gain performance it makes brass last much longer.

Kris

 

[thekriebles]

Very nice! Does the Gopher have a hemi shoulder also?

Funny thing is I've been looking at doing a 6mm/35 SMc. I've been reading that even if the hemi shoulder doesn't gain performance it makes brass last much longer.

Kris

The 17 Gopher is a die-formed case. Once fired, it would have a 40° shoulder.

 

[kris bassett]

The 17 Gopher is a die-formed case. Once fired, it would have a 40° shoulder.

Do you know the powder capacity of each of those cases?

 

[17VLD]

I really like the look of that 17Marmot.Thanks for posting the visual aid Don.Whos little wildcat is that,do tell.
Matt

 

[thekriebles]

Do you know the powder capacity of each of those cases?

I do not have the capacities of the cases. The designer of the 17 Gopher stated velocities of 3,900 with 20gr. V-Maxes.

 

[thekriebles]

Do you know the powder capacity of each of those cases?

I used to shoot the 17 Boomer (second from left in photo below). Fire-form loads using 9.86 gr. of WW296 with 20gr. V-Maxes yielded 3,654 fps. Eventual performance yielded 3,725 fps with only 10.04 gr. of powder! It is an extremely efficient cartridge, and I love its 40° shoulder & long neck. I'm currently working on a project, the 17 Boomer Mag. (die-formed case in the center of photo between the Gopher and Marmot). It will have a 40° shoulder.

 

[thekriebles]

I really like the look of that 17Marmot.Thanks for posting the visual aid Don. Who's little wildcat is that, do tell.
Matt

There's a .160" difference between the 17 Gopher and 17 Marmot in case body length. According to the wildcat designer, the Marmot would shoot the 25gr. V-Maxes at 3,750 fps. He has a 17 Javelina Imp. reamer that he has his gunsmith run in short at specific distances to create the Boomer, Boomer Mag., Gopher, and Marmot cases.

 

[Prose]

By any chance, has anyone improved the fireball or mach IV with a 40° shoulder?

The 17 and 20 SCC are improved fireball cases with 40° shoulders. Dies are available. smallcaliberclub.com has more info.

 

[johnmyers]

17 Mach IV with 30gr Kindler Golds at 3800fps is very accurate and bad news for what it hits. A real pleasure to shoot

 

[17VLD]

17 Mach IV with 30gr Kindler Golds at 3800fps is very accurate and bad news for what it hits. A real pleasure to shoot

The 17 Mach1V is an awesome round.Honestly it is about perfect for any good 17caliber bullet,but these variations do intrique me.
Matt

 

[hogpatrol]

Anyone familiar with a .17 Firebowl? I saw an ad for one on gunbroker.