F/TR

[jeffll45]

From what I read for F/TR .223 or .308 a bipod and weight of 18 lbs makes you legal. No restrictions on stocks? What power scope are best for 600 and 1000 yd.

 

[Boisblancboy]

The sky is the limit as to what stock you want to use, of course as your entire combination of components don't go over the legal weight.

The most common scope magnifications used is generally a 36x and up. Variable power scopes are also more widely used.

 

[jeffll45]

Ok Thanks just the info I was lookin for.

 

[yukonal]

What power scope are best for 600 and 1000 yd.

I made due all season with a 5.5-22 NightForce. Last 3 weeks I went to a 12-42 BR. What a great move, and what a huge difference.

Buy the very best you can, and just cry once. ;D

 

[boogershooter]

Very sound advise,and a used Nightforce seems to retain alot of its value if you decide to sell it.

 

[EagerNoSkill]

Hi

For FTR value for money & performance the

Nightforce BR / NSX in 12-42 is hard to beat!
Make sure you get the SFP version

Optics excellent and the NSX has side Parallax Adjustment

Seriously look at thus reticle
http://nightforceoptics.com/np-2dd-reticle/

 

[HPMike800]

Remember, the 18 lb weight limit includes the bi-pod.

 

[DennisH]

Mirage was so bad about a month ago, I set my scope on 18 power the whole match. No problem, took second place. On a good clear day, it's nice to use the 42 power setting, but those days are rare!

Dennis

 

[jeffll45]

Thanks fellas keep the advice coming. Yes may just have to keep saving and saving to get there.

 

[DBailey]

Mirage was so bad about a month ago, I set my scope on 18 power the whole match. No problem, took second place. On a good clear day, it's nice to use the 42 power setting, but those days are rare!

Dennis

I have to disagree with you on this one. I hate those rare good clear days. I keep the scope on 42 power 99.9% of the time. When the mirage is so bad that it looks as if you are looking through a bowl of soup it's perfect. That mirage is the best friend you'll ever have shooting long range. Learn to love it, and listen to what it's telling you.

 

[clowdis]

David,
I think you had a very good year, congratulations. I agree that mirage is your friend but how do you keep the bull from jumping around when looking through the mirage at 42X? I have had some issues with that even at 24X. I'm a prone shooter by the way.

 

[Lapua40X]

If you're looking for a scope for long range shooting you may benefit from delaying your decision until you've tried a few on the range. At our range(s) (and I'm sure the same is true at yours) you can easily find several shooters using different levels of power on their scopes who will allow you to take a "peek" and get a feel for which you like best.
Personally, I find that powerful scopes are over-rated for 1000 yards shooting. I shoot prone and rarely find it necessary to raise the power above 20x; sometimes 25x works slightly better. While I agree that mirage is your friend, working through it at magnifications greater than 25x and watching the dancing bulls eye can frustrate you greatly.

 

[DBailey]

clowdis,

The target image will dance around like crazy. But if you watch it closely it will allways snap back to a fixed point in it's dance as if it favors it, and it will spend most of it's time there. That's your aiming reference.
Those are not my words, that's paraphrasing some of the best wind coaches in the world.

In your discipline, I would imagine it's much harder to find that point because of the extra instability of the position, but the OP is talking F-Class.

Thank You for the compliment. But without the support of the Long Shots and the Spindel Shooters I can guarantee you it would have been just another year of nothing special.

 

[Lapua40X]

clowdis,

The target image will dance around like crazy. But if you watch it closely it will always snap back to a fixed point in it's dance as if it favors it, and it will spend most of it's time there. ...

Never heard it explained in quite those words (I like the "snap back" reference)
Thanks for the tip. I'll work with that idea next shoot and see if I can master it at some point.

 

[Steve Blair]

In lower humidity conditions typical of Southwestern ranges, mirage does not cause as much jumping as it does a kind of low frequency, blurry vibration. I've seen what David describes but only under humid conditions. I do most of my shooting at 42X and can sometimes not see the scoring rings or any target feature other than the black bull. When that occurs, I use the hash marks on the NP-R1 reticle to bracket the bull and the crosshair to halve it vertically. As clumsy as that sounds, it works surprisingly well.

 

[DBailey]

Steve is correct.
Lower humidity usually = less mirage induced target distortion.

 

[NateHaler]

From what I read for F/TR .223 or .308 a bipod and weight of 18 lbs makes you legal. No restrictions on stocks? What power scope are best for 600 and 1000 yd.

Use the SEARCH function. Your questions have been asked/answered hundreds of times on various shooting forums.

 

[LRCampos]

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Mr. DBailey, thank you for your answers.

Your post abour mirage is something I will look and try at the range!



LRCampos.

 

[clowdis]

clowdis,
In your discipline, I would imagine it's much harder to find that point because of the extra instability of the position, but the OP is talking F-Class.

Yep, sometimes I can manage to hold all over the X ring and most of the 10 ring !