F/TR can you use a suppressor
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I shoot sling/prone with irons and I would love the reduction in recoil in my 284 Shehane. that said when the NRA quits playing the ostrich act I will follow the rules to the letter. If suppressors were allowed, I'm not sure I'd use one for accuracy reasons. I know I've never shot groups with my suppressor attached as I have off. That said I didn't burn a lot of ammo to tune for a device I already know I can't use in competition.
Lloyd
Lloyd
I pull the list off the internet. I have done some testing with guns that has a suppressor. I never seen one that decreased the grope size the change the point of impact. Give it to John he has reduced the felt recoil .That is a competitive edge but is under the rules. ;D Larryaj300mag said:
For any of my rifles that my suppressor with attach to, I do the load work up with the suppressor on. I can promise you that it does no harm to accuracy. My 22" 6.5x47L still shoots between 1/2" and 3/4" at 200yds from an atlas bipod, with the suppressor attached. I wish I would have bought a suppressor long before I did. Now I want more.1shot said:
fm1947 said:
I just read your profile neighbor, and I'm unusually patient at times with new people. This is a fine question and worth asking, but you may get hard answers from the men forged by fire. You live in my state so you have a place to shoot what you have. Big piney in Yukon and st.louis both have non sanctioned matches that allow this gadget. I'm one of the hard cores but think people need a place to shoot what they have until they decide what they want from the sport.
There is some points i'd like to address. Not saying i'm an experts but....
1) suppressors do not generally make the rifle more accrate, especially over a 12-15 minute 25 shot string. There are some great ones out there but they will never be as accvurate over the long run as a bare barrel. They do reduce recoil but if you switch to a 300 über magnum the additional fouling will kill you over the corse of 60 rounds. (Talking 1k prone HP/F Class)
2) AR 15s, in basic competitive form, are basically outlawed in severa states but you will never see a XTC HP match without 95% of he shooters using one.
3) they will never be legal? If someone told you SCOPES would be legal on XTC rifles five years ago you'd have said they were a cracked smoker.
4) does nothing or sound? Larry, you're kidding and I missed the sarcasm , right?
I encourage them because I think the NRA should be fostering an atmosphere for shooters to legally use firearm tools that aid in shooting and aid in NOT pissing off the neighbors. As a guy with pretty severe tenetis, it would be nice to help save what I have left a few more years.
I understand the argument that was presented against them and I accepted that those arguments won. However, I feel it should be revisited yearly. The damn NRA had a 30 minutes program praising the benefits of suppressors and maintain a ban of them in competition . Ironic.
1) suppressors do not generally make the rifle more accrate, especially over a 12-15 minute 25 shot string. There are some great ones out there but they will never be as accvurate over the long run as a bare barrel. They do reduce recoil but if you switch to a 300 über magnum the additional fouling will kill you over the corse of 60 rounds. (Talking 1k prone HP/F Class)
2) AR 15s, in basic competitive form, are basically outlawed in severa states but you will never see a XTC HP match without 95% of he shooters using one.
3) they will never be legal? If someone told you SCOPES would be legal on XTC rifles five years ago you'd have said they were a cracked smoker.
4) does nothing or sound? Larry, you're kidding and I missed the sarcasm , right?
I encourage them because I think the NRA should be fostering an atmosphere for shooters to legally use firearm tools that aid in shooting and aid in NOT pissing off the neighbors. As a guy with pretty severe tenetis, it would be nice to help save what I have left a few more years.
I understand the argument that was presented against them and I accepted that those arguments won. However, I feel it should be revisited yearly. The damn NRA had a 30 minutes program praising the benefits of suppressors and maintain a ban of them in competition . Ironic.
I was talking about Johns stock. Larry
You can get glasses . But nothing I can do for my hearing loss.
I hope NRA can wake up and see the roses. Larry
I hope NRA can wake up and see the roses. Larry
Perhaps NRA chose to make the rules consistent with international rules.
If it don't enhance accuracy. Why would the NRA not allow it. I think many ranges UK they are required to shoot.. In Florida we can use them for hunting alsoJohnKielly said:
Rules has ben circumvented for years with enchantment advantages 'years
If the state the shoot is being held it don't allow them they can be removed .
I don't have a gun in this fight so who am I to say anything. Larry
savagedasher said:
Larry, I can't say I know about every range in the UK but none that I know of that shoot F class allow muzzle brakes or suppressors in F class competition, we follow international rules, same as everyone. Some ranges would allow you to shoot with a suppressor and depending on calibre, a muzzle break, but your scores wouldn't be included in any prize lists.
Richard.
So do you think the NRAs ban on them for sporting competition helps or hurts the push to de-listed them as an NFA item?
FWIW, according to the NRA itself, these were listed as an NFA item during the depression to help avoid poaching on federal land. Not because they were some assassin tool or some miracle accuracy improver. The kings didn't want their game poached while the people stood in bread lines.
FWIW, according to the NRA itself, these were listed as an NFA item during the depression to help avoid poaching on federal land. Not because they were some assassin tool or some miracle accuracy improver. The kings didn't want their game poached while the people stood in bread lines.
gawga_boy said:
This is my take NRA require eye and hearing protection. If a suppresser doesn't make your gun shoot better. Why not make it ok for competition. States or country's where suppressor aren't allowed .NRA can't do any thing about. They just. un screw. All it takes is a one word change in the rules ( OPTIONAL)
I wish I had had that choice when I started shooting. Maybe I wouldn't say WHAT as often. That is my take . Larry
I wish I had had that choice when I started shooting. Maybe I wouldn't say WHAT as often. That is my take . Larry
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