f class target size?

[Sniper338]

What is the size of the X ring on the targets yall use? Where do yall buy targets to practice?

F open and FTR.... and what ranges are best to practice at?

What are several different ranges that is commonly shot at, and is that meters or yards?

Links to f class info/ requirements?

 

[savageshooter86]

1000 yards it is 5" X ring

http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-book.pdf
*** scroll down towards end and it lists FOpen and FTR rules. Lists target sizes at different distances and also tells you classification based on scores in there too

 

[Jay Christopherson]

I buy F-Class targets from Pistoleer, but there are a couple different sources for them. I usually buy 300 and 600 yard faces. The X-ring is usually 1/2 MOA (IPHY), except 300 (slightly smaller), and 800/900 use the 5" X-ring 1000 yard target, so it's larger than 1/2 moa for those.

Usual ranges for F-Class are 300, 500, 600 (mid-range) and 800, 900, 1000 (long range) - that's yards.

If you search google for "2015 nra hp rules", one of the top links will be the rule book. I think F-Class is section 22, IIRC.

 

[memilanuk]

+1 on Pistoleer.com... most of the other places I've ordered from had larger minimum quantities, suitable for clubs more so than individuals.

For practice, I'd suggest just getting the repair centers i.e. MR-63FC, MR-65FC, MR-1FC, LR-FC. If you have access to 600yds and want something a little tougher to practice on, find someplace that sells LR-6 targets (1000yd scaled down to 600, with both sling and f-class values on it and an inner dashed x-ring for f-class). Shoot a good score on that target, and a regular MR-1F will seem almost easy by comparison.

Another option for practice out to 300yds would be the targets that Steve Blair posted in this thread. Inverted colors (white target face, black lines/numbers) makes it a little easier to see where the shots went when you are practicing by yourself without pits.

 

[Sniper338]

Thanks. I want to start practice shooting it... I'd like to jump in a few competitions eventually. This website gets me wondering what its all about way too often so i figured i may as well and see what happens.

 

[dbramley]

No muzzle brakes

 

[Sniper338]

1.42 @ 300 yds
2.50 @ 500 yds
3.00 @ 600 yds
5.00 @ 800,900,1000 yds

Thats what i found for the x ring sizes..

22lb max for F-Open
18 lbs max for FTR

My rifles will shoot those group sizes, not worried about that, getting the groups would be me on the trigger and good wind calls.

Looks like my only problem is i dont think any of my rifles would make weight... do matches allow for people to still shoot to get a feel for it even if their rifle is over weight? Shoot just for personal learning, not be included in the match scoring per say?

 

[Mozella]

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Looks like my only problem is i dont think any of my rifles would make weight... do matches allow for people to still shoot to get a feel for it even if their rifle is over weight? Shoot just for personal learning, not be included in the match scoring per say?

That would depend on the venue. I suspect low key and informal matches would allow it, but you had better call ahead to be sure. It sounds like you have several rifles. Are you saying you don't own a single rifle which weighs less than 22 pounds? I suspect two of my rifles selected at random would most likely weigh less than 22 pounds for the two of them.

 

[MGYSGT]

Or 18 lbs for FTR

 

[memilanuk]

...do matches allow for people to still shoot to get a feel for it even if their rifle is over weight? Shoot just for personal learning, not be included in the match scoring per say?

For a local club or 'Approved' match, probably. Talk with the match director before hand so they know whats coming... they'll likely let you shoot with everybody else, just not eligible for any class or match awards.

At bigger 'Registered' events, such as state, regional or national championships, there are enough people there that have put the time and effort into competing with a fully legal setup that having a new shooter with a non-compliant rig would probably be a distraction best avoided.

 

[boltman223]

...do matches allow for people to still shoot to get a feel for it even if their rifle is over weight? Shoot just for personal learning, not be included in the match scoring per say?

For a local club or 'Approved' match, probably. Talk with the match director before hand so they know whats coming... they'll likely let you shoot with everybody else, just not eligible for any class or match awards.

At bigger 'Registered' events, such as state, regional or national championships, there are enough people there that have put the time and effort into competing with a fully legal setup that having a new shooter with a non-compliant rig would probably be a distraction best avoided.

I don't think a rifle that is over weight is tomuch of a distraction to me. Maybe if it starts yelling at me. If they don't let you shoot that's kind of ridiculous. You let someone shoot and they are more likely to be motivated to get there rifle with in weight limits or getva different one. Tell them no and they might say screw it.

 

[Keith Glasscock]

Except in cases of extenuating circumstances, a match director will let you shoot as described above. The only thing that would change that is a muzzle brake. They are not allowed, and there are varying tolerances even at informal matches.

Just call the match director and have a frank conversation. You'll probably be accommodated.

 

[Sniper338]

As long as it doesn't have a brake, an F-TR gun/caliber can be shot in F-Open. I have a couple F-TR rifles with 30" MTU [heavy] contour barrels that come in just under 18 lb, which makes me surprised to hear you state yours are over the limit. I have a friend with a straight taper 34" barrel Open gun that also makes weight. If you don't have a rifle that comes in under 22 lbs, the barrels must be a similar contour to this :

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Looks like my only problem is i dont think any of my rifles would make weight... do matches allow for people to still shoot to get a feel for it even if their rifle is over weight? Shoot just for personal learning, not be included in the match scoring per say?

That would depend on the venue. I suspect low key and informal matches would allow it, but you had better call ahead to be sure. It sounds like you have several rifles. Are you saying you don't own a single rifle which weighs less than 22 pounds? I suspect two of my rifles selected at random would most likely weigh less than 22 pounds for the two of them.

I just weighed my rifle, with the 6XC barrel on it comes in at 21.6 lbs on the bathroom scale WITH the bipod on. Don't have another scale to check again to verify... but I'm a hair under 22 lbs it looks like.. I'll have to weigh it with the other barrels on and see what it comes in at, dont think I will make 18 pounds with the 308 barrel... Looks like F-Open... and probably 6XC to shoot with for now... I'd have to hope for a calmer day, I dont know how the 6XC would do in wind yet with the 105 berger... Havent even got past load testing with this barrel yet...

All my barrels are heavy varmint for this rig WITH brakes, but I can remove the brake and put on a thread protector in 10 seconds, to cover that issue...

 

[Sniper338]

I need to get a good rear rest still as soon as funds allow... Sounds like I may be able to qualify by the skin of my teeth for F-Open. I'll have to start practicing it. Also looks like I will be the one redneck out there not set up with a dedicated F class rig, front rest and all... HAHA!


Manners T4A
Defiance Machine Devient
Brux HV 28 inch barrel 7.5 twist - 6XC
Jewell @ 8 Oz
American Rifle company rings
Steiner 5-25X56 Military MSR
Rempel Bipod

Chambered and bedded by S&S Precision

 

[memilanuk]

Steiner 5-25X56 Military MSR
Rempel Bipod

Ah. There's the extra weight. Especially if its not one of the newer lighter Rempel 'pods... IIRC the old ones weighed 3-4 lbs.

 

[Jay Christopherson]

I need to get a good rear rest still as soon as funds allow... Sounds like I may be able to qualify by the skin of my teeth for F-Open. I'll have to start practicing it. Also looks like I will be the one redneck out there not set up with a dedicated F class rig, front rest and all... HAHA!


Manners T4A
Defiance Machine Devient
Brux HV 28 inch barrel 7.5 twist - 6XC
Jewell @ 8 Oz
American Rifle company rings
Steiner 5-25X56 Military MSR
Rempel Bipod

Chambered and bedded by S&S Precision

I've watched a couple of Canadian shooters shoot F-Open off a Rempel bipod pretty successfully. You should be fine.

 

[Ringostar]

The weight of that bipod is putting your weight up higher. Most f open rifles are shot of a rest, that isn't included in rifle weight. You could add a 3" flat block under the forearm, then shoot from a rest. Your rifle will be light on weight then.