F-Class hall of fame?

[Immike]

I think your sport should have a HOF... give something to strive for, possibly grow your sport.

I'm not well versed in F Class, but either way, we all need to do what we can to welcome new shooters, and grow the shooting sports.

Tom

Good point and post! The IBS SOY (shooter of the year) program is very successful for the sport (bench) and should be given attention and possibly applied to this. It may satisfy the midrange and longrange with a point system that can be useful.
This is separate from the HOF points but is part of their program. It motivates more shooter attendance than can be described with a yearly goal.

 

[ARIZONA_F_CLASS]

If you don't think the Nationals should be the match where HOF points are awarded, what other matches should be considered?

No body ever said this was going to be easy, this part of the HOF may just take a little thinking outside the box. How's about a Hall Of Fame shoot held in a central part of the country, with qualifying in some way some how? Without the qualifying and the best shooting against the best it's not really something I would even be interested in.

The HOF should be something special and not just a place to list some names that won another match somewhere. That happens every weekend somewhere. Nope the HOF should be an example of the best. The best shooting head to head using the best equipment and all of there skills against the best, and those best's qualified to gain the right to shoot the match. Then you will have something all shooters would proud of...

Roland

I disagree. A win is a win. I know somebody that doesn't shoot as much as most. But he shot two clean scores and a 199 @ 1000 yards on the same day.

 

[Erik Cortina]

Hombre, believe me, the Nationals have no pre-qualification, but somehow, the best of the best always show up. I am proposing a HOF shoot, it's called the F-Class Nationals, the only shoot of it's kind that is held every year, once a year, where only F-Class is shot. Sounds like the right shoot to me.

Hombre, I don't know why you say that Nationals without pre-qualification would not create a "True" National Champion or a solid HOF. Give me a name of someone that is a weekend warrior that has been National Champion. Also, one Nationals win would not get you into the HOF, you would have to win a National match, plus 4 relays to make it (or 5 relays). Look at past Nationals results and you will see that it is no easy task.

 

[Erik Cortina]

The HOF should be something special and not just a place to list some names that won another match somewhere. That happens every weekend somewhere. Nope the HOF should be an example of the best. The best shooting head to head using the best equipment and all of there skills against the best, and those best's qualified to gain the right to shoot the match. Then you will have something all shooters would proud of...

Roland

That's why I propose that F-Class Nationals, not some match somewhere.

 

[ARIZONA_F_CLASS]

The HOF should be something special and not just a place to list some names that won another match somewhere. That happens every weekend somewhere. Nope the HOF should be an example of the best. The best shooting head to head using the best equipment and all of there skills against the best, and those best's qualified to gain the right to shoot the match. Then you will have something all shooters would proud of...

Roland

That's why I propose that F-Class Nationals, not some match somewhere.

Are talking about 1 match once a year at a specific place and time. It would take many years ( maybe 10 ) to get the points to be listed.

 

[Erik Cortina]

The HOF should be something special and not just a place to list some names that won another match somewhere. That happens every weekend somewhere. Nope the HOF should be an example of the best. The best shooting head to head using the best equipment and all of there skills against the best, and those best's qualified to gain the right to shoot the match. Then you will have something all shooters would proud of...

Roland

That's why I propose that F-Class Nationals, not some match somewhere.

Are talking about 1 match once a year at a specific place and time. It would take many years ( maybe 10 ) to get the points to be listed.

Yes, that's the idea.

 

[ARIZONA_F_CLASS]

The HOF should be something special and not just a place to list some names that won another match somewhere. That happens every weekend somewhere. Nope the HOF should be an example of the best. The best shooting head to head using the best equipment and all of there skills against the best, and those best's qualified to gain the right to shoot the match. Then you will have something all shooters would proud of...

Roland

That's why I propose that F-Class Nationals, not some match somewhere.

Are talking about 1 match once a year at a specific place and time. It would take many years ( maybe 10 ) to get the points to be listed.

Yes, that's the idea.

Well they already have the U.S. Nationals. I like the concept, But don't like the process. If it's a NRA Certified national event. I think there should be some points accumulated towards the HOF with a win. Just like the NHRA, There are around 20 national events. All the events go towards there championship standings. You could also set up something like that for points. Designated matches for points but they would have to be in different parts of the country to make it fair for people to get to. One thing you have to take into consideration is sponsored shooters have an easier time of making these event's where as most shooters have a lot of expense and time from work to make many events. Good Idea, but you have to get a lot of input to decide what will work best.

 

[Erik Cortina]

Arizona F Class, NHRA and F-Class are scored differently. The National Champion is the winner of the National Championship. We don't have Championship standings.

Well they already have the U.S. Nationals

Are you saying it's a good idea to use this match for HOF points?


Rocky, all shooters have a lot of expense to get to these matches.

The idea is, that if we use only the Nationals, no one is left out. If you can only afford to go to one match and only have enough vacation days for one match, then make it the Nationals.

 

[Erik Cortina]

Designated matches for points but they would have to be in different parts of the country to make it fair for people to get to.

So the way it is set up now, when someone can't make it to Nationals and therefore did not win the Nationals, is that unfair?

 

[ARIZONA_F_CLASS]

Arizona F Class, NHRA and F-Class are scored differently. The National Champion is the winner of the National Championship. We don't have Championship standings.

Well they already have the U.S. Nationals

Are you saying it's a good idea to use this match for HOF points?


Rocky, all shooters have a lot of expense to get to these matches.

The idea is, that if we use only the Nationals, no one is left out. If you can only afford to go to one match and only have enough vacation days for one match, then make it the Nationals.

Yes, I think it's a good Idea, Just the 10 years to get enough points I don't like.

 

[ARIZONA_F_CLASS]

Designated matches for points but they would have to be in different parts of the country to make it fair for people to get to.

So the way it is set up now, when someone can't make it to Nationals and therefore did not win the Nationals, is that unfair?

I know what you mean. I just think the 10 years is a bit much.

 

[ARIZONA_F_CLASS]

Arizona F Class, NHRA and F-Class are scored differently. The National Champion is the winner of the National Championship. We don't have Championship standings.

Well they already have the U.S. Nationals

Are you saying it's a good idea to use this match for HOF points?


Rocky, all shooters have a lot of expense to get to these matches.

The idea is, that if we use only the Nationals, no one is left out. If you can only afford to go to one match and only have enough vacation days for one match, then make it the Nationals.

How many points would a person get for a U.S. Nationals win. If it's 1, I can't see the same person winning for the next ten years, See what I mean? I kinda like what Larry said. If you win 3-points.2nd-2points 3rd-1 point. Especially if it is only going to be 1 match a year. This should also qualify at Worlds if it's an American shooter.

 

[Erik Cortina]

Arizona F Class, NHRA and F-Class are scored differently. The National Champion is the winner of the National Championship. We don't have Championship standings.

Well they already have the U.S. Nationals

Are you saying it's a good idea to use this match for HOF points?


Rocky, all shooters have a lot of expense to get to these matches.

The idea is, that if we use only the Nationals, no one is left out. If you can only afford to go to one match and only have enough vacation days for one match, then make it the Nationals.

How many points would a person get for a U.S. Nationals win. If it's 1, I can't see the same person winning for the next ten years, See what I mean? I kinda like what Larry said. If you win 3-points.2nd-2points 3rd-1 point. Especially if it is only going to be 1 match a year. This should also qualify in at Worlds if it's an American shooter.

Win National Championship - 3 points
Win a string at Nationals - 2 points
National Record (this can be at any match) - 1 point
10 points and you are in, so, if you shoot your a$$ off, you can make it in one year!

I don't agree with awarding second and third place with points. Only winners get points.

As far as the Worlds, if you win, you are automatically in the HOF.

 

[ARIZONA_F_CLASS]

Arizona F Class, NHRA and F-Class are scored differently. The National Champion is the winner of the National Championship. We don't have Championship standings.

Well they already have the U.S. Nationals

Are you saying it's a good idea to use this match for HOF points?


Rocky, all shooters have a lot of expense to get to these matches.

The idea is, that if we use only the Nationals, no one is left out. If you can only afford to go to one match and only have enough vacation days for one match, then make it the Nationals.

How many points would a person get for a U.S. Nationals win. If it's 1, I can't see the same person winning for the next ten years, See what I mean? I kinda like what Larry said. If you win 3-points.2nd-2points 3rd-1 point. Especially if it is only going to be 1 match a year. This should also qualify in at Worlds if it's an American shooter.

Win National Championship - 3 points
Win a string at Nationals - 2 points
National Record (this can be at any match) - 1 point
10 points and you are in, so, if you shoot your a$$ off, you can make it in one year!

I don't agree with awarding second and third place with points. Only winners get points.

As far as the Worlds, if you win, you are automatically in the HOF.

So if a person won 4 strings at the Nationals, they would have 8 points? On the flip side, A shooter killed it on 2 strings and won, would have 7 points. Is this correct? Also if a shooter won 4 strings and won the championship would have enough points ( 11 points ) to get into the HOF. That would seem a little to easy. I think it should be harder, than to kick butt at 1 match to get in. But that's just me. I think 1 point per sting win, might be more challenging. If someone dominated the match and won all strings, then I can see getting into the HOF.

 

[Erik Cortina]

Wow Rocky, you went from "too hard, 10 years are too long", to "oh, it's way too easy".

Look at match results and look at how many shooters actually won more than one string. It's a little harder than you think.

 

[ARIZONA_F_CLASS]

Wow Rocky, you went from "too hard, 10 years are too long", to "oh, it's way too easy".

Look at match results and look at how many shooters actually won more than one string. It's a little harder than you think.

I see guys here win every string. lol OK, almost every string. ;D

 

[Erik Cortina]

Wow Rocky, you went from "too hard, 10 years are too long", to "oh, it's way too easy".

Look at match results and look at how many shooters actually won more than one string. It's a little harder than you think.

I see guys here win every string. lol OK, almost every string. ;D

That is not Nationals.

 

[ARIZONA_F_CLASS]

Wow Rocky, you went from "too hard, 10 years are too long", to "oh, it's way too easy".

Look at match results and look at how many shooters actually won more than one string. It's a little harder than you think.

I see guys here win every string. lol OK, almost every string. ;D

That is not Nationals.

OK, You win! ;D Remember you spell Rocky with a Y ;D

 

[Erik Cortina]

OK, You win! ;D Remember you spell Rocky with a Y ;D

Got it, thanks for the reminder Rockie!

 

[Mark Walker in TX]

Erik,

Have you ever shot at the US F-Class National Championship before?