No because if you are here you have a PC and you can find manufacturers load data just like anyone else.....if you're not too lazy to do so.
Do you give out reloading data?
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AckleymanII
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This site has loads reported by shooters, and it has been helpful to many!
I help other reloaders where and if I can, with a disclaimer.
I help other reloaders where and if I can, with a disclaimer.
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wkdickinson
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That is a perfect example of the old saying - "you can't fix stupid"!
I share bullet & powder combinations, but not weight.
I'll remind to start low & work up.
With 7mm cartridges especially i've noticed posted velocities that seem way out of wack.
7mm-08 @ 280 Rem, 280 Rem @ 7mm Rem Mag velocities.
On another forum someone started off their thread with "using max load of H4831".
I'll remind to start low & work up.
With 7mm cartridges especially i've noticed posted velocities that seem way out of wack.
7mm-08 @ 280 Rem, 280 Rem @ 7mm Rem Mag velocities.
On another forum someone started off their thread with "using max load of H4831".
I agree with this. My issue was I have an obsolete chambering, 225 win., and wanted to try VihtaVuori powder but couldn't find any published data. As Homerange suggests to no be lazy, I used my pc to send an email to VihtaVuori requesting data. I got a phone call about 8 weeks later. Those cats over there took the time to do the testing and get me the data! In the meantime I just kept using IMR 4064 and stayed safe by not "experimenting with unknowns". I now use N-140 with great results and enjoy how the smaller kernels go down my funnel so much better. My hat's of to the folks a VihtaVuori for catering to my personal needs with an obsolete chambering. Hat's of to me for being patient, safe, and not lazy!
Liven The Dream
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No to the Guy that wants to know the load the Guy that just Won the match with.
Yes to my Wife, She doesn't Shoot.
I know of Guy that will just load and Shoot the Top Guys loads ???
Never Looking for Signs of Disaster .
I will at times tell the Stuff that went into my loads , Never the the Powder Charge I use.
I will state a Low starting point ,and say work up your load.
Yes to my Wife, She doesn't Shoot.
I know of Guy that will just load and Shoot the Top Guys loads ???
Never Looking for Signs of Disaster .
I will at times tell the Stuff that went into my loads , Never the the Powder Charge I use.
I will state a Low starting point ,and say work up your load.
Some people are to stupid or stubborn to reload safely. I get the impression at least in hunting sections of the website that most of the reloaders are trying to get the max load they can get without stuck bolts or blown primers. Like the guy that FL resizes rounds after the bullet is seated. If one went off in the die you would probably have 80,000 PSI + blowing the die in your face.
Yes! However it did teach me not to try and join the club.
Forget the reloading info for the moment. Due to an alarming set of circumstances many people have decided that arming themselves is the correct thing to do. (I fully agree)
However the 'stupid' part rears its ugly head. When I'm approached by someone who wants advice on what firearm to purchase for home defense it really becomes apparent early in the discussion the total lack of knowledge by the individual concerning firearms. In some cases we're way further 'back' than 'back to basics'. I become very concerned about accidental discharges, etc. I'm not an expert by any means but firearms have been a part of my life (at times the biggest) since my father bought me a Winchester model 69a when I was 11 years old. (still have it).
My point is a lot of folks are so far from the reloading stage that even suggesting a weapon is a struggle. Seems to be way deeper than when someone may ask what a good first car for their child should be.
That might qualify as a 'pipe bomb'.
Yes, I agree 100%. I always thought matches were won by accuracy. Never knew it was a drag race.
With all the published information available, inquiries for load data are (in my opinion/experience) a sign of a really green reloader -or- chronic laziness. I’m not sticking my neck out for either option. Asking for load data in an internet forum is a big red flag for me. Now if we’re taking about an esoteric wildcat, maybe.
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I try very hard not to.... In the case were i do I tell people , don't use data off the internet not even mine.... There's plenty of published data out there for free plus if you're reloading and don't have at least three reloading manuals there's a problem... Your on the internet when you ask so pop over to the powder manufacturers page and look at their data....
If your new to reloading you should buy a popular well known caliber so there is plenty of data published by powder and bullet manufacturers. Get experience reloading well known calibers. Never could understand why some people want to invent a new wildcat and then they don't know what powder and weight is OK. Most wildcats are not much better than well known calibers.
I am experienced reloader too. And I have to say...I dont start at low and work up. I load soooo much higher than hodgdon and Berger manuals, its silly. WAY more. And its not the brass. And guess what? Thousands of people all over ignore book max, as pure propaganda. Most shooting hi Power for example, is over book and have been for decades. Saami is a standard, its NOT a line that says "Go past this its dangerous" that is a myth.
Thank you for video. Brass matters alot like the guy said. People think they are loading to book max, and are actually over or under as much as ~1 grain because of the brass (extreme).
Hi Power Loads
lots of loads there over book. How are they still alive? Its not about working up at all. Its about not buying into propaganda and just using whatever load is accurate.
Thank you for video. Brass matters alot like the guy said. People think they are loading to book max, and are actually over or under as much as ~1 grain because of the brass (extreme).
Hi Power Loads
lots of loads there over book. How are they still alive? Its not about working up at all. Its about not buying into propaganda and just using whatever load is accurate.
Sorry but this is not good advice to be giving out.... Especially since we have new members joining daily that are new to Reloading and Shooting.... Reloading manuals are a reference yes , but I have seen middle of the road data be as fast as factory ammo.... The data that's published will always be on the side of their lawyers , plus it's not recorded were your shooting at....
They may have tested at sea level OR way above sea level , at temps that your state or even country may never be and that's just two things that will be different and of course the data will be different and there's plenty of other factors.... Same reason that working up a load in the middle of winter won't react the same in summer when it's 100 degrees out it can go from great to dangerous... Sooooo many things can add or subtract from load data.... Sometimes we go over the high end of load data but you need to be careful and work up to it , inspection of everything is necessary , safety is the key... Not respecting reloading or Shooting will result in very bad things from losing eyes and fingers to death... The rules we follow help keep that from happening....
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Nick Caprinolo
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I have asked for load data and hope that if I am in need of it in the future someone will be kind enough to supply some information. I have also given data information.
When I receive data, I compare it with information from several loading books I have on hand. In giving the data I use, it is always on the low side as I only shoot at 100 yards and have found hot loads are counterproductive. Since I usually always shoot Berger bullets, I generally use les powder than what is recommended by other bullet makers.
More often than not. If someone asks for advice, I may tell them what powder works for me and since I load light, I don't see the harm in giving the data.
When I receive data, I compare it with information from several loading books I have on hand. In giving the data I use, it is always on the low side as I only shoot at 100 yards and have found hot loads are counterproductive. Since I usually always shoot Berger bullets, I generally use les powder than what is recommended by other bullet makers.
More often than not. If someone asks for advice, I may tell them what powder works for me and since I load light, I don't see the harm in giving the data.
RsAdams, sorry, you are spreading misinformation, rumors, and propaganda.
You are making stuff up to scare people.
BTW, do you work for the government? Just wondering because they run their propaganda campaign on fear, too.
Here is an article you would be interested in. Nerf footballs can result in injury.
My man, you have been lied to, your entire life. You were fooled into thinking SAAMI was linked directly to safety. Its not. its simply a specification. I have told you the truth. Link the videos if you doubt me. Show me the dead people and the no fingers. It doesn't exist. What you can find, is cracked receivers, cracked bolts, etc.
Here you go...some load data from people who don't care about SAAMI. WOW those charges are DANGEROUS! RIGHT!?? wrong...
I have this.
This was the STANDARD decades ago. SAAMI has you all scared. Its funny. We been loading this way for many decades...
People nowadays see a .1 over max Load..and they are like "BE CAREFUL JOE!! WORK UP!! Don't blow your face off"
I have told you the truth. But I understand your position, after all, its not easy to shake decades of lies and then admitting you are wrong. But really. Do you work for the government? lol jokes
You are making stuff up to scare people.
BTW, do you work for the government? Just wondering because they run their propaganda campaign on fear, too.
Here is an article you would be interested in. Nerf footballs can result in injury.
Dreams of summiting Mount Everest crushed with an errant Nerf football toss
'Holy s--t, this could cause me problems,' was a Loveland man's thought after an injury that ultimately ended his quest to summit Mt. Everest.
www.cincinnati.com
My man, you have been lied to, your entire life. You were fooled into thinking SAAMI was linked directly to safety. Its not. its simply a specification. I have told you the truth. Link the videos if you doubt me. Show me the dead people and the no fingers. It doesn't exist. What you can find, is cracked receivers, cracked bolts, etc.
Here you go...some load data from people who don't care about SAAMI. WOW those charges are DANGEROUS! RIGHT!?? wrong...
I have this.
People nowadays see a .1 over max Load..and they are like "BE CAREFUL JOE!! WORK UP!! Don't blow your face off"
I have told you the truth. But I understand your position, after all, its not easy to shake decades of lies and then admitting you are wrong. But really. Do you work for the government? lol jokes
I'll see loads some people post and claimed velocities, some as much as 400 fps faster than mine w/ 1gr difference in powder, and wonder, "how the hell are you getting that?"
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