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Custom 10/22 Accuracy

Pinning the firing pin is worth getting rid of a few fliers. I guess I am one of the few guys who looks at a 10/22 as a fun plinker, and not a br gun. I even bought a takedown version for some diversity. Some of the guys at RFC are getting huge $$$ in the 10/22's, which is fine if they desire, but not my cup of tea. I am sure Nat will enjoy the challenge to see what he can do with it.
 
3 point bedding

The bedding would support and fix the positioning of the barreled action at three points: 1) under and around the back of the receiver, 2) under and a bit up the sides of the receiver tang at the front of the receiver about the single TD (action) screw - but with no bedding in contact with the v-block, and 3) a short section underneath the barrel forward of the v-block. You want all three points resting evenly in the inletting after you put ~ 10 but no more than 15 in-lbs of torque on the TD screw, and so done nothing will be stressed. Fully floating a barrel is another deal but possible long as something will anchor the receiver’s rear.
 
Well, no records here. However, I did work my trigger over again, checked all the inards,again. Took care of all the usual stuff and installed a 6x18-40mm AO Leupold. I managed to get 2 groups in at 100 yards before dark. Both were right at 1.03". The 50 yard groups were about .5". This with CCI Mini Mags. Now I suppose it is time to call Killough and order some Eley Tennex. Will the pistol stuff work, or should I just order the regular Eley?
 
I am building a 10-22 on a Razor receiver and have a Kidd trigger already. What about a bolt? Are the aftermarket bolts worth three extra cash over a Ruger bolt? If so which one?
 
A well prepped OEM bolt will do well as any unless yours while within Ruger specs becomes a dimensional mutant once combined with a more strictly dimensioned and often less cavernous aftermarket receiver.

Use a bolt preferably by the manufacturer of the receiver if they do bolts. I’m partial to Kidd everything. Also check out the JWH bolts, and Volquartsen.
 
Nat is actually able to do his own machining! My only suggestion would be to pin the firing pin after truing and setting headspace.
 
1Merlin said:
Mark9765 said:
I have a 10/22 with a Kidd 16.5" bull barrel, 2 stage trigger set @ 8oz, Mueller 8-32X44 scope & a Boyd Evolution scope. I can get .3" 5 shot groups @ 50 yds & .5" groups @ 100 yds with CCI SV ammo. I just got my bolt back from Que Bolt Works. He pinned the firing pin, set the head space and added a VQ extractor. This should eliminate fliers and give a little more accuracy. I still need to bed the action. Eventually I want to get a Kidd bolt and receiver.

I bow down before you......... 8)

Sorry I forgot to check back. This is a target from 50yds. My 2 best groups. This is before the head spacing with CCI SV
 

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butchlambert said:
Mark9765 said:
I have a 10/22 with a Kidd 16.5" bull barrel, 2 stage trigger set @ 8oz, Mueller 8-32X44 scope & a Boyd Evolution scope. I can get .3" 5 shot groups @ 50 yds & .5" groups @ 100 yds with CCI SV ammo. I just got my bolt back from Que Bolt Works. He pinned the firing pin, set the head space and added a VQ extractor. This should eliminate fliers and give a little more accuracy. I still need to bed the action. Eventually I want to get a Kidd bolt and receiver.

If your rifle really shoots this well, you are throwing money away doing additional work to it. Knowing you have a great rifle and you are a good shot, post a photo of a target with 5 bulls eyes with a 5 shot group on each bull.

Another target also 50 yds had some fliers. My last Rimfire Bench Rest Match I had a score of 229 4X. I am still learning to read the wind and good shooting technique.
 

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Mark9765 said:
1Merlin said:
Mark9765 said:
I have a 10/22 with a Kidd 16.5" bull barrel, 2 stage trigger set @ 8oz, Mueller 8-32X44 scope & a Boyd Evolution scope. I can get .3" 5 shot groups @ 50 yds & .5" groups @ 100 yds with CCI SV ammo. I just got my bolt back from Que Bolt Works. He pinned the firing pin, set the head space and added a VQ extractor. This should eliminate fliers and give a little more accuracy. I still need to bed the action. Eventually I want to get a Kidd bolt and receiver.

I bow down before you......... 8)



Sorry I forgot to check back. This is a target from 50yds. My 2 best groups. This is before the head spacing with CCI SV


Your group on the left is a .400 and the one on the right is a .500.
 
butchlambert said:
Mark9765 said:
1Merlin said:
Mark9765 said:
I have a 10/22 with a Kidd 16.5" bull barrel, 2 stage trigger set @ 8oz, Mueller 8-32X44 scope & a Boyd Evolution scope. I can get .3" 5 shot groups @ 50 yds & .5" groups @ 100 yds with CCI SV ammo. I just got my bolt back from Que Bolt Works. He pinned the firing pin, set the head space and added a VQ extractor. This should eliminate fliers and give a little more accuracy. I still need to bed the action. Eventually I want to get a Kidd bolt and receiver.

I bow down before you......... 8)



Sorry I forgot to check back. This is a target from 50yds. My 2 best groups. This is before the head spacing with CCI SV


Your group on the left is a .400 and the one on the right is a .500.

We must measure groups different. I have always been told measure to the outside of the hole and subtract the diameter of the bullet to get the center of the hole. Center to center of the widest holes are less than half the size of the dime. But if you say it is .400 and .500 I'm not going to argue. ;D
 
Been shooting BR since the 80s. If you have a 223 bullet and you have 2 of them with another bullet in between, it has to be .400 minimum. You can eyeball the second one and the largest spread will accommodate 2 bullets between your furthest bullet holes.
We measure the distance from the outer edge of the furthest bullet holes and subtract 1 bullet diameter.
 
Ok you are right and I need new calipers. :) . So not to hijack the Op's thread I will amend my original post from .300 group to a .500 group. My bad. :-[ But it is not "just insde" the dime, if you measure the size of the dime and the hole spread in the pic it about 2/3 the size of the dime. Sorry I didn't mean to get something started.
 
Just keep working on it. I do believe you would be much better off building a bolt gun if you want a real accurate RF. Unfortunately nobody has built a 10/22 to compete with the bolt guns.
 
butchlambert said:
Just keep working on it. I do believe you would be much better off building a bolt gun if you want a real accurate RF. Unfortunately nobody has built a 10/22 to compete with the bolt guns.
I agree 100% I was just posting what I had and what it was capable of. It is what I have and I'll just shoot it till I win the lottery and can get a good bolt gun. I may not win but if I have good ammo I wont be last and I will have fun.
 
If you are serious about winning send your rifle to Dan Killough and he will match the best ELEY ammo to your rifle. It will greatly enhance your chances.
 
Many ways to skin the 10-22 cat. Cheap aftermarket bbl bedded the entire length, with floating action and the right ammo (old red box lapua):; kidd/Force action with threaded Hart bbl glassed in a McMillan thumbhole with good lot of eley or lapua, and a Fudd tuner. straight factory 10-22 with a trigger and front band removed and 1/2 a foam earplug between bbl and stock at that location, and rim thickness gauged minimags,etc. you can occasionally get 50 yd groups in the zero's, frequently mid-ones, with a tight target chamber which requires scrubbing every 200 rounds, then some # of foulers. You can shoot a 225-230 score on the usbr target in 2 minutes, maybe a 1950 ara. placement on bags is critical and can demonstrably affect grouping. often will group better if you LIFT about half the weight at the butt up off the rear bag with your pistolgrip hand. Looser chambers = hassle-free and .250 at 50. Tune generally varies from 50 to 100 yds. a tuner is a damnfine idea. Lock time is a huge handicap for silhouette against a boltaction. in the end, the problem is not so much in achieving precision, but in applying it. Same amount of time and $ will get you 1/4 moa at 1000 centerfire. That said, shot mine 4m hours a day past few days, and loved it. Seymour
 
Seymour do you have photos of those targets/rifles too? Zeros and .1s with minimags, 230 USBR in two minutes, wow.

Mark I think Butch is right about your groups, but nice shooting regardless. The wind is not my friend either. Isn't it comforting knowing all of the time/$$$/effort we spend on these fun rifles can be neutralized with a little puff of air? That helps me not get too wrapped up in the finer tuning side of things, when I think my time would be better spent just shooting with the flags and in different conditions.

If I build another 10/22 for accuracy, I'd probably add one of these to the receiver so there's two takedown screws for the receiver and not just one: http://www.coolguyguns.com/KIDD-Ruger-10-22-Receiver-Rear-Tang_p_105.html That or just buy a KIDD rifle, they are very nice.
 
Kato, the 230 usbr at 50 in a west texas wind was in front of 8 witnesses who had $ down. the mini-mag thing which you plucked out of your.......thin air shall be disregarded. You aren't Kato Kaitlin now are you? See youn in the funny papers
 

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