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COVID-19 Map worldwide, with statistics
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That's definitely it
.Why would a pregnant woman want to risk getting COVID unnecessarily when she's already enjoying all the discomfort of her third trimester (since we're talking about visibly pregnant)? By the way, plenty of pregnant women in my neighborhood out and about, taking walks in the evenings. Maybe y'all are just scaring them off?
It can’t be the virus cause that’s a hoax. I bet what with the trend for slimness in women of childbearing age the fat ladies you’re seeing are really skinny pregnant women.
“no that’s not a beer belly, she’s in her third trimester “
I commented to a coworker woman. I didn’t know you were pregnant. She wasn’t!!! She doesn’t like me much anymore.
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I talked to a big bellied pregnant gal today. She said she's due in a month, she won't make it that far. Sweet girl, she's the Manager of the DG store down the road from my Gun club. I was heading home from shooting and stopped in for a few things. I looked at her in a cute kinda way and said, are you pregnant? It brought my post on here to mind and I told her about it. She was ok with everything. For you guys to know, my wife is a Nurse. She has seen her share of covid, and brought it home to me. I could tell you things but will not bore you. We've been healthy for a while, and I do wear a mask wherever I go into that makes it mandatory. To think, when it starts up in facilities at first if the help test positive they go on quarantine till it full blow, then they want the positive tested help to work with the positive patients. Go figure. My wife's facility is 100% covid free as of this past Tuesday. Her facility went on lockdown 2 weeks before Florida went on lockdown with full PPE. Unless you had a dying family member which was headed that way for other reasons , NO ONE WAS ALLOWED IN THE FACILITY, PERIOD. Total covid related deaths there and that they sent to the Hospital totaled 25. They did good, for now. By the way, it came in from 2 different agency Nurses that are married to other full time Nurses that brought it from another facility. I know plenty more but I'm sure I'm boring you people. They get tested once a week.
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Steve Donlon
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Do you really think all the people in the world are accounted for? We don't even know how many people live in the U.S.A. Millions more than are accounted for. And more everyday. Why wouldn't they? A single mother of 2 receives at least $35,000 a year from our government for aid. No wonder all these people flock here to game the system. Instead of paying people to have kids, our government needs to pay them not to. The population in Asia is growing so fast, they can't count them by their methods. Same in India and China. Your a numbers guy, It took until 1800 to have a billion people on Earth. Then 100 years to double that. From the 50's, every 10-12 years another billion and growing. Those are the ones we can count. I'm just saying, the population has more to worry about than Covid-19.
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Brians356
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Huh. "Right. Well, I have to ... I have to go now, Duane, because I ... I’m due back on the planet Earth."
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Steve Donlon
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I'll spoon feed you. It means that your 1.1% figure is meaningless so all the numbers are.
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Hey!, watch it Steve, we’re fortunate to have Mr. 356 provide all the information he has, what with the graphs and charts , comparisons, interpretations and misinterpretations. His willingness to monitor this thread to correct and ridicule most posts on the subject is commendable.
By gosh this is where I come to get information on SARS-CoV-2.
Nothing more could have been done.
I haven’t seen you adding anything of value to this thread, you must be one of those “you know the thing” guys.
This thread is instructive in explaining why our country has the number of deaths from the virus we’re seeing.
There’s no agreement on the things you would need to agree on to move in the direction to resolve the problem. We don’t even agree on who is dying of Covid 19.
The full impacts to our economy and ourselves have yet to be realized.
This thread is silly, how would an average guy such as myself be able to evaluate all the conflicting and seemingly selected information to understand the subject sufficiently to protect their family and themselves? With 82 pages and 41,000 views folks are interested in the topic.
And I take umbrage that I haven’t contributed value to this thread. On more than one post I provided mirth.
There’s no agreement on the things you would need to agree on to move in the direction to resolve the problem. We don’t even agree on who is dying of Covid 19.
The full impacts to our economy and ourselves have yet to be realized.
This thread is silly, how would an average guy such as myself be able to evaluate all the conflicting and seemingly selected information to understand the subject sufficiently to protect their family and themselves? With 82 pages and 41,000 views folks are interested in the topic.
And I take umbrage that I haven’t contributed value to this thread. On more than one post I provided mirth.
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I see the tally on Worldometer clocked through 200k deaths in the US. @Toby Bradshaw wins - with 3 1/2 months to spare.
Well, technically @Spook and I agreed to use the CDC stats, which lag Worldometers by a few days.
I expected to win but not this quickly. I thought that the U.S. would eventually muster a reasonable response to SARS-CoV-2. I was wrong about that.
ronsatspokane
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The average person probably has a better idea of reality than the talking heads we are forced to listen to. I posted back at the beginning of this thread that it will be 2 years before the science is in and objective evidence is available that can be evaluated. Since the science has been tainted by politics, I'll change that to 5 years. The entire mainstream media and the leadership of the blue states find supporting references in only those who advocate killing the economy to win a presidential election. The rest of the population knows what they face and what prudent behavior is. We will survive. The talking heads are permanently psychologically damaged and will probably never leave their mothers basements again. I offer up Joe Biden as evidence.
Brians356
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You're a life scientist, and a keen observer. What might such a reasonable response have looked like? Surely you've pondered the question and have some insights.
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my thoughts exactly, well stated.
The biggest failure was the lack of rapid, reliable, free testing early in the pandemic, when it would have been effective in identifying and isolating infected people and their contacts. We rejected offers of testing help from Germany and South Korea. The blame for that lies squarely with the federal government (CDC and FDA).
Federal-level politicians did a terrible job of communicating the risks of COVID-19 (comparisons to seasonal flu were especially pernicious) and developing/implementing national strategies for mitigating the spread of SARS-CoV-2. A combination of misinformation ("anybody that wants a test can get a test") and inconsistent messaging (masks vs. no masks, for instance) made it impossible for the average person to know what to do or whom to trust. That problem persists even now. The average American doesn't know enough about science or economics to make an informed decision during a pandemic, yet at the same time there is widespread disdain for genuine scientific and economic expertise. This paradox has increased human misery during the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, and will likely continue in the U.S., unfortunately.
In the absence of federal leadership, states and municipalities were left to their own devices. Many failed to grasp that SARS-CoV-2 would flare up in different geographic regions at different times, and presumed that if they avoided the "first wave" they would be fine -- a big mistake that cost thousands of lives. Some states did a great job of protecting the most vulnerable (Florida, for example, which is still below the national average in COVID-19 deaths per capita despite the highly-publicized summer surge in cases), while others failed miserably (e.g., New York).
Individuals bear their share of responsibility, too. Relaxing vigilance over Memorial Day and the 4th of July is what made my bet pay off early. That and the average person's poor understanding of logarithms.
As for "lockdowns", it was prudent to restrict large gatherings (schools, sporting events, restaurants, etc.) early on. But the U.S. failed to adapt to our rapidly increasing knowledge of the virus, and the unforgivable lack of adequate testing even after many months made it impossible to reopen strategically (and re-close precisely when and where the inevitable flareups occurred).
Treating the pandemic as a political issue rather than a epidemiological/biological and economic issue was probably the biggest contributor to the U.S.'s pathetically inept response, which continues to this day and as far into the future as we can see.
It's ironic that our own CDC developed the pandemic playbook that many countries ran (and are running) successfully. We literally wrote the book but couldn't follow our own directions.
ronsatspokane
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The biggest failure was the lack of rapid, reliable, free testing early in the pandemic, when it would have been effective in identifying and isolating infected people and their contacts. We rejected offers of testing help from Germany and South Korea. The blame for that lies squarely with the federal government (CDC and FDA).
Federal-level politicians did a terrible job of communicating the risks of COVID-19 (comparisons to seasonal flu were especially pernicious) and developing/implementing national strategies for mitigating the spread of SARS-CoV-2. A combination of misinformation ("anybody that wants a test can get a test") and inconsistent messaging (masks vs. no masks, for instance) made it impossible for the average person to know what to do or whom to trust. That problem persists even now. The average American doesn't know enough about science or economics to make an informed decision during a pandemic, yet at the same time there is widespread disdain for genuine scientific and economic expertise. This paradox has increased human misery during the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, and will likely continue in the U.S., unfortunately.
In the absence of federal leadership, states and municipalities were left to their own devices. Many failed to grasp that SARS-CoV-2 would flare up in different geographic regions at different times, and presumed that if they avoided the "first wave" they would be fine -- a big mistake that cost thousands of lives. Some states did a great job of protecting the most vulnerable (Florida, for example, which is still below the national average in COVID-19 deaths per capita despite the highly-publicized summer surge in cases), while others failed miserably (e.g., New York).
Individuals bear their share of responsibility, too. Relaxing vigilance over Memorial Day and the 4th of July is what made my bet pay off early. That and the average person's poor understanding of logarithms.
As for "lockdowns", it was prudent to restrict large gatherings (schools, sporting events, restaurants, etc.) early on. But the U.S. failed to adapt to our rapidly increasing knowledge of the virus, and the unforgivable lack of adequate testing even after many months made it impossible to reopen strategically (and re-close precisely when and where the inevitable flareups occurred).
Treating the pandemic as a political issue rather than a epidemiological/biological and economic issue was probably the biggest contributor to the U.S.'s pathetically inept response, which continues to this day and as far into the future as we can see.
It's ironic that our own CDC developed the pandemic playbook that many countries ran (and are running) successfully. We literally wrote the book but couldn't follow our own directions.
You can't be serious. When travel from China was shutdown Joe Biden called the president an xenophobe, Nancy Peloci told everyone to come down to Chinatown in SF to party and show Trump up as a racist, in New York the mayor was telling everyone to ignore the orange man and go see a movie, he even recommended a viewing list. Now they want to destroy the lives of their constituents by bankrupting them, Como is trying to pitch that it was the orange man who sent all those infected with Covid to nursing homes and they have all turned into anti-vaxers. These people would slit the their own grandmothers throats to gain power. It is the most disgusting political display I have ever seen in my 62 years. Nancy's hair sure looks nice though, doesn't it?
jds holler
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Just for my own information, could any of you guys tell me just what the fatality rate among folks in the "high risk" group is?? jd
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