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concelled carry question. Pennsylvania

If you like S&W, look at a Shield. 9 rounds of 9MM and very concealable. I can carry mine in a pocket holster without anyone ever knowing. I'd be more concerned with protecting myself than some BS rule against it. I'll never understand the thinking that disallowing CCW permit holders the right to carry in certain places somehow makes them safer. It's just the opposite. The worthless turds that want to rob and kill aren't going to pay any attention. In fact, they welcome such places as less "dangerous". Make things safer for yourself, and less so for the gang bangers.
 
Im open to any make or model. It has to be something I can take to the range and hit what im pointing at. Ex. The springfield emp. Wanted that gun so bad and just before ordering one a local shop had one u could demo. I couldn't hit anything. Not that the gun is bad but I wasn't good with it so theres no real point in even carrying it. I want the ability to have a round chambered and it decocked. My m&p in a construction site can realistically only be carried safe with an empty chamber
 
chevytruck_83 said:
Im open to any make or model. It has to be something I can take to the range and hit what im pointing at. Ex. The springfield emp. Wanted that gun so bad and just before ordering one a local shop had one u could demo. I couldn't hit anything. Not that the gun is bad but I wasn't good with it so theres no real point in even carrying it. I want the ability to have a round chambered and it decocked. My m&p in a construction site can realistically only be carried safe with an empty chamber

Can you post a link to the gun that you carry? I'm not familiar with M&P so I don't understand why it couldn't be carried with a round in the chamber.
 
After a few years of trying to carry concealed....1/4 the time wearing a tee shirt...I surely tried a bunch. The best weapon made that's left at home because of size or weight is useless. What worked best for me is a Walther PPK in stainless. If you want put a PPK/s mag in for an additional round. The 380 Auto does not receive great reviews for stopping power, however it beats whatever you left at home! It is thin enough I just stuck it my waistband....years of sweating against it has had no effect on the stainless. (of course it's wiped down).
And should the reviews you read on a 380 worry you, load with some of the many choices of hollow point ammo and shoot a pumpkin at 15 feet. Really quite ugly.
And it can be carried with a round in he chamber.......easy push on the safety forward and the first shot is double action.
 
Walther PPK/S: Yes, one of the few I feel comfortable with carrying concealed with a round in the chamber. The Germans got it right the first time in 1927 when it was designed, and the same design that was used in the P-38. The rotating block of steel that seperates the hammer from the firing pin makes it one of the safest to carry fully loaded. The ability to cock the hammer ( if there is time available) for a single-action first shot is another plus.

With the barrel fixed to the frame, non-moving, straight blow-back action like a 22, very accurate & most importantly it does not malfunction with high quality ammo, jacketed hollow-points included.
 
I have to agree with everything M-61 and fdshuster stated. I have one of the old Interarms imported Walther PPK's in stainless and it can't be beat for concealed carry....... and I tried them all too!
 
S&W Model 60 Chief's Special. You can tuck this down the front of your pants with your belt holding it in place. A loose fitting tee shirt or buttoned short sleeve, both untucked, reveal notning. That's enough punch to disable any punk in the right hands.
 
chino69 said:
S&W Model 60 Chief's Special. You can tuck this down the front of your pants with your belt holding it in place. A loose fitting tee shirt or buttoned short sleeve, both untucked, reveal notning. That's enough punch to disable any punk in the right hands.
I carry one of these, too, and agree up to a point, but over the years that I have been carrying concealed I have found that, for me at least, a major factor in ease of concealment is the width of the handgun. The Smith model 60, Taurus 85 and similar revolvers are pretty easy to conceal, but the Walther PPKs, Kel-Tecs, Rugers and other compact semi-autos are a lot easier to conceal because they are so much thinner. I'd probably still be carrying a PPK if mine had been stainless rather than blued..... Traded it for my second 1911A1.
 
I personally carry a Taurus 85 but..... after seeing a friends s&w ultra carry model 60 wow, 1/2 the weight, makes a big difference after hours of carrying and still has the knock down of the .38 cal. It is very easy to conceal, even a Starbucks employee wouldn't notice it.
 
Keep in mind that anything Smith makes in Model 60 variant, Taurus usually duplicates in the model 85 or related series. My 85 is the titanium model, designed to compete with the lightweight Smiths, and was the first carry gun I had that was truly lightweight, a quality I learned to appreciate quickly. 8) The first time I bought a lightweight snubby revolver, it came down to 2 specimens the dealer had in stock, one a model 60 and the other a Taurus 85. I chose the Taurus not because it was cheaper, but because that particular Taurus had a better trigger pull than that particular Smith model 60.

But both the Smith Model 60 variants and the Taurus model 85 variants are still 5/8 inch thicker than the compact .380 Kel-Tecs and Rugers, and the lightweight versions of both revolvers are still twice as heavy as those particular .380s. The 5 shot revolvers, especially the lightweight models, are great carry guns, which is why they're in my battery, but I've been accumulating firearms for about 55 years, so I can suit the firearm(s) I carry on any given outing to the task at hand and my mood and clothing at the time (there are some very compelling reasons to carry a revolver in certain scenarios, too). For those looking for maximum concealability and ease of concealment (light weight is a component of ease of concealment with some carry concepts) and a one-size-fits-all solution, especially those looking to easily conceal in summer shorts and a Tshirt type outfits and/or only wanting to invest in one firearm for carry purposes, the current crop of really compact .380 autos probably offers the best alternative for a one size fits all solution. If you are willing to deal with a little more bulk and weight, the snubby revolvers are slightly tougher to deal with, but not a big problem, and within the last 3 years or so there have been several really compact reasonably lightweight 9mms to complicate your decision.

I still haven't figured out a convenient way to carry a .50AE Desert Eagle concealed.... ;D
 

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