Commentary on Buyer and Seller Ethics

[Walt Krafft]

On Gunbroker, I have 1 in 10 dead beat buyers. Either dont pay, or want to pay with a credit card I cant take.

 

[Big Mc]

Just a little rant.
I posted a fair amount of goods for sale on here,at what I thought were very reasonable prices, which must have been true because I was inundated with responses. All went smoothly for most buyers except a few that I had to remind them of their commitment. It pays to look thru buyers feedback, as one of them did the same thing to another seller a few years back, committed to a sale, then had to be reminded a few weeks later, and ultimately didnt follow thru. I just dont understand, we are all in the same sport here, we all enjoy shooting and reloading, yet for the most part were strangers, and wouldn't recognize each other if we passed in the street. It's not that hard to just say " I changed my mind" , or , " I cannot afford it right now", rather than string someone along for a month before disappearing, and not responding to messages.
Rant over, I'll be more cautious, and communicate my expectations more clearly in future sales.

Sory for your truble. But thay is the world we live. Its a shame.I would say most of the folks on this site stright up go people. Too bad there will be a few low lifes. Tommy Mo

 

[Kittitas George]

Most people are OK, and follow through on commitments. I refuse to 'give up' on my fellow shooters. There are a number of people that post 'for sale' or 'wanted ads' and I won't respond. Like the Forum Boss says 'phone calls' are important. W.C. Fields said "you can fool some of the some of the time, and that's enough to make a living".

 

[TonyinKY]

A Silver or Gold contributor with a fair amount of recent transactions with all positive feedback is all I’ll buy from. But I’ll sell to anyone AFTER I’ve received payment

 

[centershot]

Two things burning my bean.
I always take a personal check because they are deposited electronically and usually clear in an hour or two. Some credit unions are a bit slower but they do come through.That is a good thing with me.

Second thing is why some people refuse to leave feedback. I know it was a good transaction but they still refuse even when I send them a PM to remind them. And yes, they know how to do it because they left feedback before.

I am finished. Thank you.

 

[jobhopper66]

I have to disagree with the idea that many have that being a silver or gold member somehow is a definitive indication of an honest and ethical person. I may soon be a noncontributor, does that mean my 630 positive deals won't mean anything? I have contributed for 13 years and then I am going to have a newcomer question my honesty because there is no banner under my name, I don't think so. For what it's worth I have only posted negative feedback once and the member had a gold banner under his name.

 

[ebb]

Turkeytider said it all in post #8. My depression era parents were of the opinion if you said I'll take it and didn't complete the deal, you are a liar no more no less. I have only one transaction here and he asked a price and I paid for it. I hated it when I got it and having never seen the product before, i would not have bought it. I was not his fault at all, I should have known what I was buying. I doubt I will ever buy anything unseen again.

 

[DLT]

I usually pay with USPS m.o. so I do my best to get it in the mail the next day(after seller gives me an address) because we all know how snail mail is. Some of you have shipped to me, before my mo arrived. Rest seem to have item(s) ready to ship when mo arrives. I'm satisfied/happy either way and thanks to all I have had the PLEASURE to do business with.

Same here

 

[Ranger188]

I'll usually take a personal check.
Had times I needed to wait just for it to arrive, cause of how fast the USPS is. Lol
If I've had a good conversation with a buyer and the item isn't too expensive, I've
sent the item early.
I try to get the item shipped out that day or the next. Then I'll leave a picture
of the tracking label in a PM for the buyer.
I don't like a buyer or seller that can't take 1 minute to leave feedback
when I've left it for them. Really gripes my cookies. Lazy

 

[Krogen]

Feedback upon completion of a transaction is only a part of the process, in my book.

I think regular updates between seller and buyer are important. After you say "I'll take it" why not PM the seller when the payment is underway? The seller can acknowledge receipt and say they'll ship today/tomorrow/whatever. Then send a tracking number. And of course the buy can PM the seller when the item arrives in good order.

It's not hard, a few keystrokes. But it's just good manners. I try to treat others like I'd like to be treated.

 

[jk80]

I've not been a seller on here, but have purchased several items. The way the post office is anymore i send all payments with tracking so the seller can see I'm not screwing around or having a case of buyer's remorse. One payment took almost two weeks to get from st louis area to Tennessee. Thankfully the seller was understanding and by tracking could see where the payment was. I finally contacted the post office and lo and behold, the payment started moving to seller. The seller was understanding and awesome to do business with. Tracking may help others in transactions also. Just some food for thought.

 

[Just Dave]

I've not been a seller on here, but have purchased several items. The way the post office is anymore i send all payments with tracking so the seller can see I'm not screwing around or having a case of buyer's remorse. One payment took almost two weeks to get from st louis area to Tennessee. Thankfully the seller was understanding and by tracking could see where the payment was. I finally contacted the post office and lo and behold, the payment started moving to seller. The seller was understanding and awesome to do business with. Tracking may help others in transactions also. Just some food for thought.

That's a good idea, it probably don't cost much more if anything. . I like to give it my full attention, for example I'm getting ready for a match in two weeks and have plenty of things to do after work each night, so I just quit listing things until I get back so I can keep things moving along for the buyers. That way the wife doesn't figure out how much all this stuff costs.

 

[RCE1]

With only one exception, I've found this community of firearms enthusiasts to be scrupulously honest and live up to their commitments.

 

[bobcat93]

We have many many many folks here who are top professional in there career. Law enforcement,
Military, Doctors, Surgeon, Tradesmen Gun dealers, store owners .hunters, trappers, competition pros, preists, dentists, machinist, teachers, and on and on. this is real life, it isnt some joke.
These are the people of our communities
and we treat one another as professional. With respect and clear communication.
Our mature forum members may do well to remeber
Its a new world with a twisted perspective on what is acceptable professional behavior.
If people need to be told English is the American language, or if you have peepee stay out of woman rest room, and sports
Just what can you really expect.

I dont like this topic, it really chaps my ass

 

[7887mm08]

Hate when the buyer doesn't even let you know that their purchase arrived until you ask them about it.
Tell you all is good and then don't leave feedback, after you did but yet their profile is filled with positive reviews.
This goes for major dollar purchases as well as minor ones

 

[Just Dave]

Hate when the buyer doesn't even let you know that their purchase arrived until you ask them about it.
Tell you all is good and then don't leave feedback, after you did but yet their profile is filled with positive reviews.
This goes for major dollar purchases as well as minor ones

I think I've had a few of those as well, I know I have sold more things on here than what my history shows and I might be guilty on the feedback response. I know this last set of ads, I had a ton of responses, and I scrambled back to make sure I gave them the appropriate feedback, but in case I didnt I wish they would shoot me a message to remind me.

 

[Blue-Mule]

And I would like to thank the forum boss for the "updated" description on this post.
Here I thought " Commentary on buyer and seller ethics" was a new sub-forum that I missed .
I even went looking for it on the home page, wondering if I missed something new.

I was wondering if there was a thread on this topic, hadnt looked yet.

Pretty new member here, lurked for about a year, joined recently as ive been looking for a better than averaage rifle to buy for some long range work.

I finally pulled the trigger on a deal, only to be disapointed by a well rated seller.
Decent communication, fast shipping and packaging.
answered SOME of the questions i asked, but somehow forgot to mention the giant dings in the wood that were not in the picture of said gun.

I get this is a side hustle for some folks, and making a little $ is the point of it, but being honest and forthcoming in a transaction goes a long way towards future deals.

To his credit, he's offered to take the gun back.... I'm trying to decide if its worth the hassle/risk now

 

[ELR LVR]

Just a little rant.
I posted a fair amount of goods for sale on here,at what I thought were very reasonable prices, which must have been true because I was inundated with responses. All went smoothly for most buyers except a few that I had to remind them of their commitment. It pays to look thru buyers feedback, as one of them did the same thing to another seller a few years back, committed to a sale, then had to be reminded a few weeks later, and ultimately didnt follow thru. I just dont understand, we are all in the same sport here, we all enjoy shooting and reloading, yet for the most part were strangers, and wouldn't recognize each other if we passed in the street. It's not that hard to just say " I changed my mind" , or , " I cannot afford it right now", rather than string someone along for a month before disappearing, and not responding to messages.
Rant over, I'll be more cautious, and communicate my expectations more clearly in future sales.

I had that happen as soon as I began advertising stuff on here.
A person wanted something I was offering then gave no response afterward when I asked for some form of payment.
As a decent guy I thought maybe he:
Got busy, went into the hospital, got sick???
And held the product for a week or so when I could have been selling it to other people
Now- if I dont here from a person after a day or two, I figure I was trolled and back on the market it goes.

 

[D-4297]

Have made two purchases from other members here , and was pleased with both transactions . Followed the recommendations as set out by the Boss , did a couple of PM's with the Seller and sent the check , letting them know payment was on the way .
As others have said ; It is important to hold up your end of the deal as a Buyer . Someone would not be selling a item unless they didn't need it , or was in need of the cash , for whatever reason . Be honest ; uphold your personal integrity , and as has been said , Your word is your bond !

 

[Electric B]

I’ve bought and sold here and other forums for years.
I often wonder what my Dad would think about todays internet business.

I could hear it now
“You mean to tell me you’re sending 1k money order to a guy in Utah you’re don’t even know?????”