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California Shooters - What Will You Do if Newsom Measure Passes?

GerryM said:
Maybe it's because most shooters depend on the NRA to do the lobbying

You just need a strong leader who will organize the shooters.
Lets face it many many shooters are lazy for some reason trying to get them to attend a big rally is tough But doable
You need someone to go to each gun club and address the situation and organize the members.
IT will take tons of effort to get it done. The problem is none really explains what is really going on.
we all know it's not gun control But people control
The key is GOOD strong Men will to do what has to be done .
Also organize the veterans oganization,s. Vets Hate infringements on their rights.
You take it from there IF you care.

I have thought about trying to do this (organize, resist, fight, educate, etc.), but only once retired (in a few years). I've no idea if I could be effective, but it surely seems to me much could be done to begin to change public opinion. It would be slow, like the changing the direction of the Titanic, and maybe the effort would sink as fast as the Titanic, but I do believe we have to give our resistance efforts a chance to succeed. They just might.

What motivates me to even consider such an effort on my part is that I am sick and tired of constantly "losing", being pushed around like sheeple, hoping the NRA will do something, and being shamed into a class of a 2nd class whacko citizen. I am frustrated that there is little public outreach to the general public. Or even proper messaging. How might people respond to a message of "curtail gun violence, get a gun". Not ideal, but all I could think of right now. Or from a political point of view, "I am Republican because I support minority rights". It has been proven that messaging like this tends to cause people to react and say, Yeah, yeah. It is memorable, fits on a bumper sticker of signature line, and is easily spread. Consider "xxxx citizen owned guns used today to stop a crime". This uses the anti-gun message of how many guns used today to kill. Steal the populist message used by the left and flip it so it becomes OUR message.

Organize and conduct public events to educate people. How many people have thought about a gun, but were too fearful or shy to even visit a gun store? Would YOU be willing to be a mentor for them? There are ways to reach them. Yes, Facebook, Twitter, and other venues will likely be blocked, but it is not impossible. The best part is that those people you help will tell others and the word spreads. People will likely feel more inclined to question and change their views by way of peer pressure vs that of a logic applied by gun owners. Anti-gunners operate on emotion and you can't reason with that. I have been to shooting events for new shooters, and these people tell their non-shooting friends how fun it was, and the word spreads.

This may all be a pipe dream, but I think I will be sorely disappointed if on my deathbed, I realize I might have been able to do something to preserve our rights and did little to nothing. That does not sit well with me. I hope it doesn't with any of you.

Phil
 
Oh boy. :o
I may be "mis judged". The last Dem I voted for was Carter.
I'm an Iowan. We are overwhelmed with nothing but politics at this time of the year during political cycles. All I want to do is pull the lever for Cruz in February and send all these doltish politicians on to you old ladies.
Anybody send lead down range today? I did all day. Had three Amigos over for a shoot fest at the compound. Went well if you could stand against the 45 MPH winds. Garands, M1's, M1873 lever gun, AR 1O, a couple high power bolt guns, oddles of hand guns. Lots of fun.
Carry on......
 
JRS said:
Joe Salt said:
I see you Tree huggers are still at. We are not going to change Liberals no matter what we say. Must be they trust people more than I do. They hate guns,because they have no interest in shooting and hunting. And lack of common sense.

Joe Salt
Since I own guns, hunt, shoot and am not a tree hugger, I suppose that makes me a non-liberal, Joe ;D

Edit: I actually do trust people. I can't imagine life, fearing trust. I don't try to force my beliefs on you, advocate you adhere to a certain political party, drive a certain make of vehicle or dress in a similar fashion as I. I respect your beliefs and decisions, and quite honestly, hope you would show that respect to me.

Um, You jump on every political post with your liberal talking points straight from MSNBC..



Ray
 
JRS said:
Since I own guns, hunt, shoot and am not a tree hugger, I suppose that makes me a non-liberal, Joe ;D

Edit: I actually do trust people. I can't imagine life, fearing trust.

Trust is earned not granted.
 
The only way to stop these blatant attacks on the Constitution is to stop voting Democrat, and convince others to do the same. These people are just lunatics. Get every single person you know who respects the second amendment to the polls to vote!
 
timeout said:
LHSmith said:
JRS said:
I actually re-registered yesterday. For the up-coming election, I will be voting as a Republican :o

Lindsey Graham, of course ;)
Sure you are. And I am Tinkerbell.
Cannot believe this is still on here. If it waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck ................. Just Sayin'
The only reason it remains here is due to you resurrecting it. I removed my posts and moved on, after realizing that to remain an NRA member, own guns, hunt, shoot and have my own opinions, required me to be a lifelong member of the Republican party. Nor was I aware that all gun owners are members of the Republican party, and that all NRA members are Republicans. I'll offer my money and support to a more appreciative party that doesn't place demands on their supporters.
 
JRS said:
timeout said:
LHSmith said:
JRS said:
I actually re-registered yesterday. For the up-coming election, I will be voting as a Republican :o

Lindsey Graham, of course ;)
Sure you are. And I am Tinkerbell.
Cannot believe this is still on here. If it waddles like a duck, quacks like a duck ................. Just Sayin'
The only reason it remains here is due to you resurrecting it. I removed my posts and moved on, after realizing that to remain an NRA member, own guns, hunt, shoot and have my own opinions, required me to be a lifelong member of the Republican party. Nor was I aware that all gun owners are members of the Republican party, and that all NRA members are Republicans. I'll offer my money and support to a more appreciative party that doesn't place demands on their supporters.

Straight to another political post with your liberal rhetoric...



Ray
 
22BRGUY The reason they want to pass this law is so they can put you on a no fly list. They already know were most of the guns are now. Like me I'm registered in NEW YORK with a CC Permit. So all they have to do is go down the list and put everyone on the no fly list. And don't think it won't be done! Random at first then see ya. There all a bunch of no good B%$$@# if you know what I mean.

Joe Salt
 
JRS said:
The only reason it remains here is due to you resurrecting it. I removed my posts and moved on, after realizing that to remain an NRA member, own guns, hunt, shoot and have my own opinions, required me to be a lifelong member of the Republican party. Nor was I aware that all gun owners are members of the Republican party, and that all NRA members are Republicans. I'll offer my money and support to a more appreciative party that doesn't place demands on their supporters.
The Party you briefly "left" 2 days is a good fit for you. The Party of Carter offers much more than those waskelly republicans. Come erection morning they'll bus you to the voting booth, ...and you can do it all over again in the adjoining precinct by voting by proxy for some long deceased party member....and in some locations you can do this all day long. Life is good.
 
Everybody is entitled to their own party and beliefs but anyone who would vote for a democrat cant possibly go to church, pay taxes or own guns. Remember- vote early and vote often!!
 
Vintage Newsom BS! I have lived in California for more than 50 yrs and have slowly but surely seen this state go ULTRA liberal. Newsom himself must be the product of one of those "Flower Children" from the 60 or has used so much that his brain no longer functions normally. And he's even thrown his name in the hat to be Governor once the current MORON in office (Brown) leaves. Personally and as many have said, I'm no longer surprised by ANYTHING that happens in this state as the water that has infected so many in San Francisco is now flowing throughout the state, leaving many citizens without any brain waves. As far as Newsom's bill, I don't believe it'll pass a vote, but if it does, how the hell does he think it'll ever be enforced? We'll have more "reloaders" than this state has ever seen and I'm certain honest law abiding citizens who either hunt or shoot for pleasure, will become "AMMO CRIMINALS!" SO much for keeping the public safe Newsom you fXXXing IDIOT! Go smoke another dubbie!
 
Shynloco said:
Vintage Newsom BS! I have lived in California for more than 50 yrs and have slowly but surely seen this state go ULTRA liberal. Newsom himself must be the product of one of those "Flower Children" from the 60 or has used so much that his brain no longer functions normally. And he's even thrown his name in the hat to be Governor once the current MORON in office (Brown) leaves. Personally and as many have said, I'm no longer surprised by ANYTHING that happens in this state as the water that has infected so many in San Francisco is now flowing throughout the state, leaving many citizens without any brain waves. As far as Newsom's bill, I don't believe it'll pass a vote, but if it does, how the hell does he think it'll ever be enforced? We'll have more "reloaders" than this state has ever seen and I'm certain honest law abiding citizens who either hunt or shoot for pleasure, will become "AMMO CRIMINALS!" SO much for keeping the public safe Newsom you fXXXing IDIOT! Go smoke another dubbie!

I have been in CA for 48 years, and the only thing I can say to your comments, is that they are 100% the truth. I hope you are right on Newson's measure not passing muster with the voters, but I am less optimistic. - Phil
 

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