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California Becomes 1st State to Outlaw Sale of Glock, Similar Semi-Auto Pistols

I guess y'all better get yourself a UPS Store box in another state.

My guess is that barrel makers aren't going to ship to California at all. Not worth the risk or hassle.

Just keep in mind there is a group of people that own the big firearms OEMs that are pretty much unaffected by these stupid laws, shipping regulations, etc etc They want everyone out of the gun business but themselves. Same thing they did during COVID. Lowes, Home Depot, Walmart, Target, etc etc were open for business and booming. While Mom and pop shops got the cops called on them for being open.
 
Political alignment aside; I'm trying to figure out how a single 17 shot burst is going to do more damage than 17 carefully aimed shots. The guys that are using these for gang violence are mostly ignorant of anything but pulling a trigger.

Gerry
It's all about the drive by, and readily being able to get a poor mans MAC.....
 
I guess y'all better get yourself a UPS Store box in another state.

I haven't read the entirety of the bill (talking about the barrel-FFL thing), but if it's like the ammunition background check law, it makes both non-FFL transfers, and importing of whatever they're talking about illegal. In the case of ammo, sure, you can go to Nevada or Arizona and stock up, which is perfectly legal, but you can't bring it into the state without having a check done at an FFL. I would assume the barrel law will be worded the same.

Like most gun laws, this will affect only those people who actually follow the law, and not the criminal element.
 
I haven't read the entirety of the bill (talking about the barrel-FFL thing), but if it's like the ammunition background check law, it makes both non-FFL transfers, and importing of whatever they're talking about illegal. In the case of ammo, sure, you can go to Nevada or Arizona and stock up, which is perfectly legal, but you can't bring it into the state without having a check done at an FFL. I would assume the barrel law will be worded the same.

Like most gun laws, this will affect only those people who actually follow the law, and not the criminal element.

Well, I guess that would put the responsibility of determining FFL and all that on the barrel shipper...
 
Political alignment aside; I'm trying to figure out how a single 17 shot burst is going to do more damage than 17 carefully aimed shots. The guys that are using these for gang violence are mostly ignorant of anything but pulling a trigger.

Gerry
These laws are passed by legislators who understand nothing of actual firearms and tactics. All they see are wannabe gangstas whose idea of fun is to spray a bunch of rounds at a crowd.
 
It's important to remember that, there are more Republicans in the state of CA. then any other state. yes, we are currently losing the battle but, some of us can't leave and are still here fighting behind enemy lines and need the help of others. there are crazy liberal areas in almost every state. so please send relief packages consisting of guns, ammo, and now barrels, to Ca. freedom fighter. 123 Main St. komifornia. 92345
 
It's important to remember that, there are more Republicans in the state of CA. then any other state. yes, we are currently losing the battle but, some of us can't leave and are still here fighting behind enemy lines and need the help of others. there are crazy liberal areas in almost every state. so please send relief packages consisting of guns, ammo, and now barrels, to Ca. freedom fighter. 123 Main St. komifornia. 92345
Careful! They might label you as a Rightwing Extremist. It doesn’t matter that you’re just fighting for your Constitutional rights. You don’t agree with them so you’re a “fascist”. What I find most ironic is that the left says it’s “trying to save America.” Can someone please explain that one to me?
 
I guess the folks in blue will enforce the law and lock people up. "Hey, my job is to enforce the law, not to follow the Constitution or use common sense". No matter how dumb the laws are that the politicians pass, they will enforce them. :rolleyes:
 
I guess the folks in blue will enforce the law and lock people up. "Hey, my job is to enforce the law, not to follow the Constitution or use common sense". No matter how dumb the laws are that the politicians pass, they will enforce them. :rolleyes:
I guess there's blue, and then there's blue. There are some sheriffs that are still sane, but the cities are gone.
 
It's not about Glocks or switch's specifically. It's California and it's all about chipping away at every single thing they can think of to make it harder to buy and own guns. They know in 2-5 years it will probably get overturned in court but in the meantime they got away with it and also indoctrinated a few more weak minded people to be even more anti gun to keep pushing their agenda. THAT is what it's all about!
 
Yawn… so shocked. I wish we could keep all that is Cali contained and isolated to that area, but they’re spreading. They “say” that they are conservative when they show up, but the word conservative is becoming a red flag code word for “don’t worry I’m not like the other people”, I hear it, dead giveaway. I’m sure there are good folks there, there’s 400 million people there, but.
 
:(The only part of any firearm that is serialized is the receiver, this requires a 4473. Barrels do not qualify !!!!
Unless you are in OZstralia and, YES, spare barrels are serialised.. and registered to a particular firearm… And you….
Don’t forget “Safe Storage”; firearms locked in safe with ammo locked in seperate storage from the firearm…
You do not want to be caught out by a sudden arrival of the police to check that your are abiding to regulation… Failure, results in instant confiscation of all firearms!
Transport of firearms shall be in locked container/s, ammo in locked container, nothing that can be observed from the exterior of the transporting vehicle…

If you are living in Western Australia, the state now has regulation's limiting the number of firearms you may own and the calibres as well as currently proposed regulations to require a Psychological doctors report before getting a firearms licence or a renewal every 5 years….:(
 
Yawn… so shocked. I wish we could keep all that is Cali contained and isolated to that area, but they’re spreading. They “say” that they are conservative when they show up, but the word conservative is becoming a red flag code word for “don’t worry I’m not like the other people”, I hear it, dead giveaway. I’m sure there are good folks there, there’s 400 million people there, but.
This is why it's important for all gun owners to stick together and support each other and for non Californians to bring the fight to Cali instead of isolating the gun owners in Cali. Remember that when things take hold in one state it makes it easier to enact in others.

A lot of people loose track that there are over 12.7 Million gun owners in Cali.( thats one of the biggest group of gun owners in the country). I see it happen on this site all the time... people list things for sale but won't ship to Ca. when in actuality Ca. it's hard to ship to, there are states that are way harder. We buy and sell guns here everyday. If we stick together we can beat it, if we let them divide us they will win.

One thing you have to remember there are lots of liberal's that have jumped ship from Ca. for others states so a lot of the people you refer too are actually liberal, they screwed things up in Ca. and then jumped ship, its their MO, they did it with Oregon and Washington too. There are a lot of Conservatives here standing our ground and need fellow gun owners to stand with us not alienate us. People forget Ca. was the "OG" of states that people from every other state flocked to and ruined, overpopulated, drove up prices. Everyone wanted to be here.
 
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Government doesn't do anything that will cause trouble.

Harassing law-abiding citizens with oppressive laws never causes any trouble, law abiding citizens obey the law, by definition.

For example, Government would never dare ban the use of smartphones by learners while in class. That would cause a lot of trouble.
 
This is why it's important for all gun owners to stick together and support each other and for non Californians to bring the fight to Cali instead of isolating the gun owners in Cali. Remember that when things take hold in one state it makes it easier to enact in others.

A lot of people loose track that there are over 12.7 Million gun owners in Cali.( thats one of the biggest group of gun owners in the country). I see it happen on this site all the time... people list things for sale but won't ship to Ca. when in actuality Ca. it's hard to ship to, there are states that are way harder. We buy and sell guns here everyday. If we stick together we can beat it, if we let them divide us they will win.

One thing you have to remember there are lots of liberal's that have jumped ship from Ca. for others states so a lot of the people you refer too are actually liberal, they screwed things up in Ca. and then jumped ship, its their MO, they did it with Oregon and Washington too. There are a lot of Conservatives here standing our ground and need fellow gun owners to stand with us not alienate us. People forget Ca. was the "OG" of states that people from every other state flocked to and ruined, overpopulated, drove up prices. Everyone wanted to be here.
I don’t have time to be an activist and get involved in some organizations. Nor do I care to. In a perfect world we could isolate the problem to the state that it’s in and keep it from spreading. Wishful thinking I suppose.

Yes I understand that there was a time when people flocked there. For good reason. I was there, one time. If it wasn’t for the people I could see where it would be amazing. Very beautiful, great weather. But then there’s reality. And I just wish we could keep that reality corralled up, quarantined if you will.
 
Unless you are in OZstralia and, YES, spare barrels are serialised.. and registered to a particular firearm… And you….
Don’t forget “Safe Storage”; firearms locked in safe with ammo locked in seperate storage from the firearm…
You do not want to be caught out by a sudden arrival of the police to check that your are abiding to regulation… Failure, results in instant confiscation of all firearms!
Transport of firearms shall be in locked container/s, ammo in locked container, nothing that can be observed from the exterior of the transporting vehicle…

If you are living in Western Australia, the state now has regulation's limiting the number of firearms you may own and the calibres as well as currently proposed regulations to require a Psychological doctors report before getting a firearms licence or a renewal every 5 years….:(
SOB!
 
Yawn… so shocked. I wish we could keep all that is Cali contained and isolated to that area, but they’re spreading. They “say” that they are conservative when they show up, but the word conservative is becoming a red flag code word for “don’t worry I’m not like the other people”, I hear it, dead giveaway. I’m sure there are good folks there, there’s 400 million people there, bu
I don’t have time to be an activist and get involved in some organizations. Nor do I care to. In a perfect world we could isolate the problem to the state that it’s in and keep it from spreading. Wishful thinking I suppose.

Yes I understand that there was a time when people flocked there. For good reason. I was there, one time. If it wasn’t for the people I could see where it would be amazing. Very beautiful, great weather. But then there’s reality. And I just wish we could keep that reality corralled up, quarantined if you will.
you don't have time to not be an activist. Jackson hole in your area is spreading, if you do nothing you be like CA. also where do you think this forum comes from? hating CA. is easy. direct that hate to the right people.
 

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